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Old 08-31-2017, 07:01 PM   #281
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You didn't mention option #4...we read post 263 that things were getting too political.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:19 PM   #282
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Predicting the future is the problem in this discussion, facts are not available.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:01 PM   #283
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The future is now; Acidified ocean water widespread along North American West Coast | News and Research Communications | Oregon State University
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:03 PM   #284
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Clearly too many people breathing on the West coast. We'll have to crack down and send more of the illegal aliens back to reduce the ocean acidity.

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Old 08-31-2017, 09:10 PM   #285
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:33 PM   #286
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No responses? Interesting...

This means one of three things:

1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,

2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,

3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.

Am I close?
No, it means we read Baker's post.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:50 PM   #287
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No, it means we read Baker's post.
I'm totally confused. Are we still talking about trawlers?
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:07 PM   #288
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I'm totally confused. Are we still talking about trawlers?
Wifey B: A Trawler named Harvey.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:13 PM   #289
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He's right outside. Making quite a fuss.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:22 PM   #290
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He's right outside. Making quite a fuss.
Wifey B: His leftovers have arrived here in TN now.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:24 PM   #291
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:37 PM   #292
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Wifey B: Cumberland River

Not too far from you. Go east young man.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:45 PM   #293
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No responses? Interesting...

This means one of three things:

1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,

2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,

3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.

Am I close?
I think it means you are nagging. Nagging is often ignored.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:56 PM   #294
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I think it means you are nagging. Nagging is often ignored.
Ignoring uncomfortable questions is also an effective avoidance technique, often blamed on hearing loss by married men of a certain age.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:13 AM   #295
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No responses? Interesting...

This means one of three things:

1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,

2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,

3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.

Am I close?
There's a fourth option. The science doesn't support your position and most are too polite to point it out to you, since you seem fervent in your belief system. Just a possibility to consider.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/ocean-acidification-yet-another-wobbly-pillar-of-climate-alarmism/
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:19 AM   #296
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An interesting human nature side effect of Harvey. Television and newspapers made a lot of the shut down of refineries. People in some areas such as Dallas panicked so all decided to go buy gas whether they needed it or not. As a result, stations ran out. There was plenty of gas available to serve all needs, but not once a run on the pumps was made.
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Here, chew on this

https://apnews.com/d279b95b3eff430f88fed9c4c2a22fad

Now for you "free market" guys tell me how the free market 1. Let this happen and 2. how it will be fixed.

The national Flood Ins plan is a mess. People have been paying and have every right to be reimbursed. Maybe it will now be reformed. Houses that the system have paid out on time and time and time again are out there. Seems after the 2nd time a buy out is in order and the lot never to be built on again. One step would be to stop allowing ins co to escape liability due to flood and water damage. ALL houses should be insured for all, volcano, earth quake, helicopter dropping porcupines...everything. The first step is to not allow insurance companies to write the legislation, as they do now, then work from there.

Just remember when thinking about major corporations, especially pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, understand that the perfect working example of an oxymoron is "corporate morality".

BTW, I lived in Friendswood, from 73 to 86. I watched floods, floods and more floods. Houses were paid for with 2 floods, free and clear from the proceeds. 50 inches fell on my old house. I saw 23" in 12 hours in 1979.
More than half of the US population lives in coastal watersheds or floodplains.

http://www.floods.org/ace-files/docu...FIP_6-9-11.pdf

The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act).
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An interesting human nature side effect of Harvey. Television and newspapers made a lot of the shut down of refineries. People in some areas such as Dallas panicked so all decided to go buy gas whether they needed it or not. As a result, stations ran out. There was plenty of gas available to serve all needs, but not once a run on the pumps was made.
I remember when Johnny Carson told a joke about a shortage of toilet paper and caused a run that emptied shelves for two weeks.
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:37 AM   #299
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"The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act)". Cottontop.

I have not kept up. I moved to Fort Worth and lived on top a very high hill so paid no attention to changes. Good to know.
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:50 AM   #300
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"The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act)". Cottontop.

I have not kept up. I moved to Fort Worth and lived on top a very high hill so paid no attention to changes. Good to know.
You may remember all of the houses along the lower San Jancinto and Trinity rivers that used to flood all the time; they were the classic examples of abuse of the program. They're mostly gone, either bought out by the program or the premiums are unaffordable.
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