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08-31-2017, 07:01 PM
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#281
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Myers, FL.
Vessel Name: Chasing 80
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Constellation 460
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 139
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You didn't mention option #4...we read post 263 that things were getting too political.
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08-31-2017, 07:19 PM
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#282
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,977
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MM
Predicting the future is the problem in this discussion, facts are not available.
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08-31-2017, 09:03 PM
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#284
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,458
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
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Clearly too many people breathing on the West coast. We'll have to crack down and send more of the illegal aliens back to reduce the ocean acidity.
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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08-31-2017, 09:10 PM
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#285
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,977
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Ted
Your on to something, we need to rid the world of people. NOKO will soon nuke someone and end the problem.
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08-31-2017, 09:33 PM
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#286
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Cameron, La
Vessel Name: Baobab
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,660
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
No responses? Interesting...
This means one of three things:
1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,
2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,
3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.
Am I close?
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No, it means we read Baker's post.
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08-31-2017, 09:50 PM
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#287
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Guru
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dimer2
No, it means we read Baker's post.
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I'm totally confused. Are we still talking about trawlers?
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08-31-2017, 10:07 PM
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#288
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
I'm totally confused. Are we still talking about trawlers? 
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Wifey B: A Trawler named Harvey.
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08-31-2017, 10:13 PM
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#289
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Guru
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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He's right outside. Making quite a fuss.
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08-31-2017, 10:22 PM
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#290
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
He's right outside. Making quite a fuss.
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Wifey B: His leftovers have arrived here in TN now.
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08-31-2017, 10:24 PM
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#291
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Guru
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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Where in TN are you?
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08-31-2017, 10:37 PM
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#292
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
Where in TN are you?
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Wifey B: Cumberland River
Not too far from you.  Go east young man.
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08-31-2017, 10:45 PM
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#293
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,041
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
No responses? Interesting...
This means one of three things:
1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,
2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,
3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.
Am I close?
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I think it means you are nagging. Nagging is often ignored.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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08-31-2017, 10:56 PM
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#294
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
I think it means you are nagging. Nagging is often ignored.
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Ignoring uncomfortable questions is also an effective avoidance technique, often blamed on hearing loss by married men of a certain age.
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"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
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09-01-2017, 01:13 AM
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#295
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Grand Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,752
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
No responses? Interesting...
This means one of three things:
1) you have been searching how ocean acidification could impact your sport fishing and are now grappling with how this new knowledge requires a complete reversal of your position regarding humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere,
2) you didn't look into ocean acidification much, and don't really want to abandon your position anyway, or,
3) the fishing is fine right now and you couldn't care less about the future.
Am I close?
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There's a fourth option. The science doesn't support your position and most are too polite to point it out to you, since you seem fervent in your belief system. Just a possibility to consider.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/ocean-acidification-yet-another-wobbly-pillar-of-climate-alarmism/
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09-01-2017, 01:19 AM
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#296
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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An interesting human nature side effect of Harvey. Television and newspapers made a lot of the shut down of refineries. People in some areas such as Dallas panicked so all decided to go buy gas whether they needed it or not. As a result, stations ran out. There was plenty of gas available to serve all needs, but not once a run on the pumps was made.
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09-01-2017, 07:16 AM
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#297
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Senior Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Alegría
Vessel Model: Overblue 48
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mule
Here, chew on this
https://apnews.com/d279b95b3eff430f88fed9c4c2a22fad
Now for you "free market" guys tell me how the free market 1. Let this happen and 2. how it will be fixed.
The national Flood Ins plan is a mess. People have been paying and have every right to be reimbursed. Maybe it will now be reformed. Houses that the system have paid out on time and time and time again are out there. Seems after the 2nd time a buy out is in order and the lot never to be built on again. One step would be to stop allowing ins co to escape liability due to flood and water damage. ALL houses should be insured for all, volcano, earth quake, helicopter dropping porcupines...everything. The first step is to not allow insurance companies to write the legislation, as they do now, then work from there.
Just remember when thinking about major corporations, especially pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, understand that the perfect working example of an oxymoron is "corporate morality".
BTW, I lived in Friendswood, from 73 to 86. I watched floods, floods and more floods. Houses were paid for with 2 floods, free and clear from the proceeds. 50 inches fell on my old house. I saw 23" in 12 hours in 1979.
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More than half of the US population lives in coastal watersheds or floodplains.
http://www.floods.org/ace-files/docu...FIP_6-9-11.pdf
The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act).
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09-01-2017, 07:19 AM
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#298
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Senior Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Alegría
Vessel Model: Overblue 48
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
An interesting human nature side effect of Harvey. Television and newspapers made a lot of the shut down of refineries. People in some areas such as Dallas panicked so all decided to go buy gas whether they needed it or not. As a result, stations ran out. There was plenty of gas available to serve all needs, but not once a run on the pumps was made.
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I remember when Johnny Carson told a joke about a shortage of toilet paper and caused a run that emptied shelves for two weeks.
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09-01-2017, 07:37 AM
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#299
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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"The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act)". Cottontop.
I have not kept up. I moved to Fort Worth and lived on top a very high hill so paid no attention to changes. Good to know.
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09-01-2017, 07:50 AM
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#300
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Senior Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Alegría
Vessel Model: Overblue 48
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mule
"The federal flood insurance program was amended in 2004 to reduce repetitive losses (the "two floods and you're out" act)". Cottontop.
I have not kept up. I moved to Fort Worth and lived on top a very high hill so paid no attention to changes. Good to know.
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You may remember all of the houses along the lower San Jancinto and Trinity rivers that used to flood all the time; they were the classic examples of abuse of the program. They're mostly gone, either bought out by the program or the premiums are unaffordable.
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