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05-31-2020, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
City: englewood florida
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 168
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Canada to U.S. boarder crossings
Was wondering if anyone has made progress on getting your boats from Canada into the U.S. I know that when I 1st asked this question a couple of weeks ago some folks had processes in place and ready to execute. How did they go??
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05-31-2020, 08:08 PM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,257
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Stand by to Repel "boarders"!
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05-31-2020, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member
City: NW Washington State
Vessel Name: Kingfisher
Vessel Model: 37' converted gillnetter/crabber
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 442
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Only commercial vessels, and even those might be iffy. Scary stuff still going back and forth, and they're being especially cautious to keep travelers away from the Gulf Islands and Vancouver Island.
Here in Bellingham we just had a commercial trawler come in, the American Dynasty, and one of the crew members was admitted to the hospital. He was Covid positive. They then tested the entire crew and there were 86 positives aboard with others still awaiting results. They're all back in Seattle now, quarantining aboard.
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Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible. ~The Dalai Lama
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05-31-2020, 11:12 PM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,257
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Tug and barge traffic is operating as normal up the IP to AK.
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06-01-2020, 08:04 AM
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Senior Member
City: Houston / Ketchikan
Vessel Name: Backchuck
Vessel Model: 28' Crozier / Hunt
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 103
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I know of two different vessels that have gone from P.S. to Ketchikan in the last 1 - 2 weeks, anchoring for a few hours at night then continuing.
1st one was a diesel trawler, 2nd one was a twin O/B boat that did
stop for fuel but did not get off the boat at all, even at the fuel dock.
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06-01-2020, 08:33 AM
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48 (sold)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon H
I know of two different vessels that have gone from P.S. to Ketchikan in the last 1 - 2 weeks, anchoring for a few hours at night then continuing.
1st one was a diesel trawler, 2nd one was a twin O/B boat that did
stop for fuel but did not get off the boat at all, even at the fuel dock.
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Bet they didn't have operating AIS. Eye in the sky commonly notes, digitizes and tracks non AIS vessels. There must be more to the story.
Vessel confiscation is alive and well on both sides of the border for far more reasons than the virus shutdown. Guys like this screw it up for the rest of us patiently waiting.
A twin outboard could be dropped on a freight barge in Seattle and hauled to AK in less than a week. Hassle free and legal. I know of several vessels that are doing IP non stop, legally. No reason to be sneaky.
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06-01-2020, 09:19 AM
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Guru
City: Nanaimo
Vessel Name: former owner of "Pilitak"
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,703
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On Friday, there were several Custom's Agents and RCMP officers on board an 80 foot (approx.) pleasure craft tied to the dock in Nanaimo. The transom listed "Georgetown" as the home port. The "officials" were there for the entire 4 hours I was down at the docks, and were still there when I left!
I don't have any details, but I am sure it wasn't to talk about the weather.
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Nanaimo, BC
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06-01-2020, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member
City: Houston / Ketchikan
Vessel Name: Backchuck
Vessel Model: 28' Crozier / Hunt
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 103
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The twin O/B boat was meet by Canadian customs at 1st fuel stop. They allowed the boat to proceed as long as it only made fuel stops.
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06-01-2020, 12:08 PM
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Guru
City: Pender Harbour, BC
Vessel Name: Gwaii Haanas
Vessel Model: Custom Aluminum 52
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,791
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Basically you are not welcome now, but you will be welcome again. How difficult is that to (cough) fathom?
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06-01-2020, 12:12 PM
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Guru
City: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Capricorn
Vessel Model: Mariner 30 - Sedan Cruiser 1969
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,019
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He was Covid positive. They then tested the entire crew and there were 86 positives aboard with others still awaiting results. They're all back in Seattle now, quarantining aboard.
How big was the trawler, didn't know a trawler could handle 86 people with "others" still waiting results?
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06-01-2020, 12:18 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,670
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American Dynasty is 272’ and usually has a crew of 140 plus. They catch, process and package at sea. It’s owned by American Seafoods. Here’s a picture.
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06-01-2020, 01:00 PM
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Guru
City: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Capricorn
Vessel Model: Mariner 30 - Sedan Cruiser 1969
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,019
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I am searching my mind and I don't think I've seen a trawler that big before. Lots of commercial vessels in my area but definitely nothing that big. That's something I'd expect to see off the coast of Alaska.
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06-01-2020, 01:32 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,871
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Canada to U.S. boarder crossings
We have been put and about for 2 weeks now. We are now in the Port Hardy area. Very few boats about. I can provide an update on certain situations for US travel through Canadian waters.
We saw two US recreational vessels on AIS that we recognized and knew the skippers. They were off Cracroft. On query, one of them said that Canada Border Patrol in Sidney let them through with special provision to anchor but not to come ashore or dock. They were allowed passage because they could provide proof that they resided in Alaska. Evidently the travel restrictions provide for this situation.
Jim
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06-01-2020, 07:00 PM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 4,281
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I was talking to a neighbor who moves brokerage boats between Vancouver and Seattle. He was approved to move an Offshore 54 from Vancouver to Seattle. Here is the rub. Canada required him to quarantine for 14 day after entering the country and the US requires him to quarantine for 14 days upon Re-entering the country. No one wants to pay him for sitting on a boat for 28 days.
This is the closest I have heard of any one being approved to move a boat across the border.
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06-01-2020, 08:49 PM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsn48
I am searching my mind and I don't think I've seen a trawler that big before. Lots of commercial vessels in my area but definitely nothing that big. That's something I'd expect to see off the coast of Alaska.
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That is where it works...
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06-01-2020, 11:38 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,073
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsn48
I am searching my mind and I don't think I've seen a trawler that big before. Lots of commercial vessels in my area but definitely nothing that big. That's something I'd expect to see off the coast of Alaska.
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It is often moored off of Cowichan Bay in the off season.
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06-02-2020, 12:19 AM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,257
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06-02-2020, 01:26 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,008
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This story about FV American Dynasty is exactly why AK Gov. Dunleavy switching to pre- flight screening, in lieu of quarantine, makes no sense.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020...ing-to-alaska/
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06-02-2020, 01:52 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tiltrider1
This is the closest I have heard of any one being approved to move a boat across the border.
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When this started to unfold, I posted about it and the post was quickly removed.
In mid-April, a 34’ American Tug spent shake down time in the San Juans and crossed the border on Apr 18, bound for AK.
She cleared in Sidney, overnighted in some marinas, was denied access and/or moorage at a few places and crossed from Prince Rupert to Ketchikan on May 1.
Begs the question; why was this permitted?
If this were a legitimate land or sea crossing, they would have been required to transit directly through BC without stopping OR be quarantined 14 days.
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06-02-2020, 02:22 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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15 days quarantine prior to flight, test, if the do not flunk the test, then get on the plane.
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