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Old 03-08-2018, 02:16 PM   #1
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Buying Albin 36

Newbie. Lifelong boater but never more than a 23' center console. Looking for a Trawler to do Great Loop. How much trouble can I get in with a 1984 Albin 36 with 1200 hours on Lehman 6, for $40k ? Will Survey of course. Original owner used as condo... not much underway. Core construction above water line, Boat is in NC. Teak decks all grey. Original Teak windows ( Leaking? ), All bright work needs refinish, No Thrusters. Alternator needs replace, original fuel tanks ( not black iron). Pictures look pretty clean. Three owners. Marginal glass and elec skills. I enjoy some work but don't want to take on total rebuild. Looking at boat Saturday. Comments so much appreciated.
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If truly cored below waterline and soggy, I'd walk.
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Thanks. Unless obvious with a tap test or mangled thru hulls I wont have comfort on that until Survey. Owner says no but....
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Ablin 36 not core below water line

Just read this on the BoatUS review. Apparantly core only used on top.

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The hull of the Albin 36 is a solid fiberglass laminate built in a method typical of similar Far Eastern-built boats of similar style. The fiberglass lay-up of the hull is substantial and is generally well supported by fiberglass-encased stringers, frames and plywood bulkheads securely tabbed to the hull. Construction of the decks, cabin house and flybridge utilize cored fiberglass composites in a number of areas and, on most Albin 36 models,
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40K way high unless one of the best on the market.

They were that 7 years ago when I bought my 40.

not cored unless a one off, but doesnt mean the hull couldnt be in really bad shape. Mine was saturated and delaminating...surveyor kinda glossed over it.

I have been restoring mine, living aboard and cruising for 6 years. Definitely a project boat in my case but it was a special story.

If decks in bad shape, windows leaking, and lived in warm water its whole life...Unless you like working on boats over using them.... fine tooth comb it and then some.

My bet you can get it down to $25k after a really thorough survey.
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Here is the Albin 36 schematic. You can see it has a solid hull.
It may help you during the survey.
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Holy Cow. That is fantastic. Thank you so much JLeonard.
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How many hours to clean and finish all that teak inside and out ?
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I ripped up the deck and glassed to prevent further water intrusion and all the interior teak fell off after the first freeze.
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I ripped up the deck and glassed to prevent further water intrusion and all the interior teak fell off after the first freeze.
Project pics by any chance ??? Did you have to recore under all the teak deck and interior ?

Time and cost estimates ?
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Buying Albin 36

I have a 1983 36 albin with 6000 hrs and still running great .. check the aft cabin windows as they do tend to leak . I just replaced to port aft window . Great boat !!!
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Project pics by any chance ??? Did you have to recore under all the teak deck and interior ?

Time and cost estimates ?
Will try and find the pics over the next couple days...

Probably 2 weeks of partial days. on the flybridge I also cut the seats out as the spelled trouble and were only good for storage....not comfy.

The glass and epoxy for the bridge and decks wasnt much, say $300.... depending on paint, another $200.

Estimates from yards I didnt bother with, but others have paid I think $15,000 to $20,000 if memory serves correct.

Those figures could be cut quite a bit depending on your involvement and/or getting unskilled labor to remove the teak and clean/prep for the glasswork.
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Psneeld Hopefully you will post those pics on this discussion.. thanks in advance
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Good luck Thumper...you’re embarking on a wonderful adventure.
If this isn’t the right boat, keep looking until you find the one that is.
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original fuel tanks ( not black iron).
Certain about that? Many of the Taiwanese boats had a coating over the metal that makes it look like something else.
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Here's deck pics.....
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Certain about that? Many of the Taiwanese boats had a coating over the metal that makes it look like something else.
No. I am not certain. How do I tell if a tank is aluminum\steel\black iron ?? especially if it is wrapped ?

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black iron is really a steel ...a magnet tells the diffetence from aluminum.
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Sorry to sound like Debbie Downer, but based on pics, I think you'd be better off spending your 40K elsewhere. Looks like some serious water intrusion throughout cabin.
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$10000 to $20000 boat unless fuel tanks to engine are great.....

then just barely on the high side....

and only if you have thousands of hours to spwnd rehabbing her only to still have a throwaway boat in 10 to 15 years.....
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