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Old 10-28-2018, 02:17 PM   #21
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Nice touch with the TF burgee!

As you can see Prime Minister Putin voted for #12.
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Old 10-28-2018, 03:17 PM   #22
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At the risk of getting kicked off the forum...a few of you have been emailing/PM'ing me mentioning privately that this whole thing has taken off and would prefer, in order to do it correctly, we go backwards a step. Start off with picking one of the logos. Then after selecting a logo place it on a burgee. Anyone violently disagree? Or just keep on going from where we are. Just throwing it out there.

psneeld is laughing his butt off right now.
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I am sure glad this is not a company trying to make some money.....

Most entertaining though. Ready to order whatever it looks like.
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Yep laughing my butt off....

I say a blank white burgee wit just a TF in the middle.

Then we can sharpie in whatever each of us wants.

We would all know it was a TF burgee so that condition is met, no logo infringement, easy/inexpensive to make, no hard feelings...what could go wrong?
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...what could go wrong?
The poll to approve Sharpie colors?
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Way too much of way too much going on here!!!

I've previously posted my choice(s) [regarding other persons' burgee-flag design entries and I've taken/answered the poll. Not sure if it actually pertains to this or another thread regarding choosing a TF burgee.

Bottom line: If I like it once manufactured I'll purchase one... if not I won't. Pretty much that goes without saying for most on TF.
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Old 10-28-2018, 04:41 PM   #27
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The poll to approve Sharpie colors?
Like the NAVRULES....some things just have to be left up to captains discretion.

Exactly Art.... Not everyone will like or approve of the final product...unless it's their shspie design...
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Well if you don't pick the one I voted for, I'm just going to make my own the way I want it. Hell, might do that just to be different.

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At the risk of getting kicked off the forum...a few of you have been emailing/PM'ing me mentioning privately that this whole thing has taken off and would prefer, in order to do it correctly, we go backwards a step. Start off with picking one of the logos. Then after selecting a logo place it on a burgee. Anyone violently disagree? Or just keep on going from where we are. Just throwing it out there.

psneeld is laughing his butt off right now.
So I am one of the folks in agreement with the approach firstbase threw out there.

The way I looked at the polling is (Total Votes / Total Points)
  • Agree #6 (55 / 90) seems to be a leader but it is the only one w/ this logo
  • #1,5,7,10&11 (80 / 90) are essentially the same logo w/ different colors & borders and when you ad them up in some columns it is equal of more than #6
  • Then 9&12 (47 / 103) again are the same logo w/ different colors / borders etc and #'s seem to put it in the running

Winner not as clear as it might seem at first glance

I'd volunteer to work w/ a small group (2-3) to lead this effort if we want to give it a redo w/some direction & leadership...

I've already started the investigation re: whether the TF logo (#9 & 12) is copyrighted and/or can we get permission to use it. Lets assume it's doable until I find out otherwise from TF owners or a burgee mfg tells us it's not practical.

Step 1. Get some preliminary feedback from existing logo concepts re feasibility and budget cost est.

Step 2. Poll single entries of just the logo concepts - (either just the top ones from previous or add in the missing ones - I'm OK either way) with approx costs even if they are ball park $ based on method of mfg & 1 vs 2 sided.

Step 3. Leadership group chooses the logo based on results

Step 4. Poll 1-3 color choices for the chosen logo, background, border.

Anyone else willing to step up to help lead?

Anyone else think it's worth starting over or...

is someone willing to just declare and take over working w/ manufacturer to make it happen?
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Don, the pic and logo art were the product of TFer's contributions of photo and design talent.

I can't speak for Andy R but I don't really think Andy would have ANY problem with using the TF logo in appropriate TF Gear. He was a strong supporter and buyer of the nice shirts made a few years ago...although he might have a problem if someone wanted to emblazon the logo on their favorite anchor.

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Thanks Al - I wasn't aware of the history.
The subject was raised and I thought it worth of investigating.
I didn't think there would be an issue.
I'll continue to follow-up until we have a firm answer and confirm w/ the group
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Old 10-28-2018, 06:36 PM   #32
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I had some spare time to help gather info, now my plate is pretty full getting the boat ready for winter and last few projects before we return to home in a few weeks.
At this point, I’m in agreement with the majority of you on the basics of a burgee. It might get a bit pricey for mirror image on both sides, embroidering, ink work, multiple colors....you get the point.
A quick view of a few sites on price range and $40-$100 (or more) seems the norm for one off flags. Quantity orders,and the price comes down somewhat.
Price isn’t a concern to me, but many others may not be willing to part with the cash for a burgee. Still a bunch cheaper than any “Yacht Club Burgee”.
Then do we buy direct or does one of us have to order, handle the shipping, collect funds...you get the drift.
I just cant commit to the time to “manage” or even be an assistant. Sorry but the boat and life has to get ready for this next voyage.
So I’m still onboard to buy one anyway, what ever “WE” decide, and Don, you have my vote to become the “Turtle Herder”!
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Don, I'll help out and I believe there are a couple of others who will step up once they get back this thread.
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So I’m still onboard to buy one anyway, what ever “WE” decide, and Don, you have my vote to become the “Turtle Herder”!
Cheers!
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Trying to herd cats, turtles, anchors and rode all in one. Thanks Crusty for your wise assistance.....
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Turtle Herder? A lot better than the Turd Hurler...Wait...what?


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Turtle Herder? A lot better than the Turd Hurler...Wait...what?




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Ok, what is a burgee? Just kidding...
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bur·gee
/bərˈjē,ˈbərjē/

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A flag bearing the colors or emblem of a sailing club or group, typically triangular, development of which generally leads to the fracturing of the club or group into smaller clubs or groups each thinking the other has lost it's mind.
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Yacht clubs and their members may fly their club's burgee while under way and at anchor, day or night.


Sailing vessels may fly the burgee either from the main masthead or from a halyard under the lowermost starboard spreader.


Most all powerboats (i.e., those lacking any mast or having a single mast) fly the burgee off a short staff at the bow.


Two-masted power vessels fly the burgee at the foremast.



Just sayen!


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http://www.usps.org/national/fecom/f.../gaffpole.html
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She's right.. #6 won hands down.. I don't remember what it looks like.. But the majority want this one.. I will purchase whichever one you choose.. and If you choose to have a vote again.. I recommend a decisive.. 1 vote per person.
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