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Old 12-09-2017, 12:40 AM   #81
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Hi,


I have a bow / Stern truster and both of them great help sometimes when the wind blows hard and narrow harbor. Nowadays I rarely get tricked by doking vs my old planing boat Twins + bowtrusters, also due to the NT long keel. If I did not have a bow / Stern truster I could get along, but at times very stressful. If you had to choose which one to give up, then Stern truster less help.


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Old 12-09-2017, 03:57 AM   #82
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I wouldn't want to own a single inboard with NO thruster at all. However, you can learn to be very effective with the 'bump and fill' technique.
Cue, entry from stage right, one who has in fact no thruster - many of us don't - and we manage fine...

Admittedly for your first few trips out you wish you had, but after that...
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Cue, entry from stage right, one who has in fact no thruster - many of us don't - and we manage fine...

Admittedly for your first few trips out you wish you had, but after that...
It's been two years since my thruster worked.
I joined Don't Tell Thrusters Anonymous.

No longer am I seduced by dock hands who yell, "Of course you can back in there"

And I can do a 360 in a 50' diameter (CCW of course)
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:42 AM   #84
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I've never had a twin engine boat before. I'm moving from a 26' x 9' beam with a BT to 34' x 14.5' beam cat. It's all stern-to mooring in this part of the world and usually very limited space with boats either side. I think I'm going to need a BT and ST in each hull, 4 arms, a rosary beads and a new wife with better boat handling skills than me.
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I've never had a twin engine boat before. I'm moving from a 26' x 9' beam with a BT to 34' x 14.5' beam cat. It's all stern-to mooring in this part of the world and usually very limited space with boats either side. I think I'm going to need a BT and ST in each hull, 4 arms, a rosary beads and a new wife with better boat handling skills than me.
Personally, I still like bow in. I got real tired of folks looking into my saloon. Plus, they think I am friendly.
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Personally, I still like bow in. I got real tired of folks looking into my saloon. Plus, they think I am friendly.
Is it not a PITA boarding and disembarking from the bow over rails etc?
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Is it not a PITA boarding and disembarking from the bow over rails etc?
On my AT, the swim platform is populated with the tender.
The railing stops at the pilot house doors. It is a flush deck so hanging on to the boat, it is either lowering or stepping up.
Per cockpit, shrug. Just depends on what is convient for me and my guests.

Given time, you can train your guests. LOL
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On my AT, the swim platform is populated with the tender.
The railing stops at the pilot house doors. It is a flush deck so hanging on to the boat, it is either lowering or stepping up.
Per cockpit, shrug. Just depends on what is convient for me and my guests.

Given time, you can train your guests. LOL
Are you boarding/disembarking midships onto a side jetty for at the bow? No side jetties where I am so would have to use one of the neighbor's boats [which wouldn't be appreciated I'd imagine and anyway both could be out at the same time] or the bow which is not really feasible with the height and I'd have to have it hard up against a concrete dock.
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Probably never Med moors as it is very rare in the states.
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Probably never Med moors as it is very rare in the states.
Med mooring is pretty much the norm in this marina.
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Med mooring is pretty much the norm in this marina.
So do you actually disembark from the bow?
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Go out the pilot hose door, step to the dock.
I do use a breast line which can be interesting during high or low tide. Depending upon the tide, the fried eggs cooks on one side of the pan or the other.
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Go out the pilot hose door, step to the dock.
I do use a breast line which can be interesting during high or low tide. Depending upon the tide, the fried eggs cooks on one side of the pan or the other.
So you use an anchor or two and have no side docks?
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Go out the pilot hose door, step to the dock.
I do use a breast line which can be interesting during high or low tide. Depending upon the tide, the fried eggs cooks on one side of the pan or the other.
No side dock in Med marinas so I still need the rosary beads and the new wife.
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So you use an anchor or two and gave no side docks?
No, I am tied to the dock.
If I used a Med method, I'd have to remove the tender or crawl under the tender.

If there is not a dock, I will have to rethink everything. The pure Med Dock is very uncommon around here. There is always a dock.
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Med mooring is pretty much the norm in this marina.
Post 90 is what confused me.....

Irish Rover doesnt have our luxurious finger docks or side to's much if the time.
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Go out the pilot hose door, step to the dock.
I do use a breast line which can be interesting during high or low tide. Depending upon the tide, the fried eggs cooks on one side of the pan or the other.

???

"Step to the dock" from somewhere near the pilothouse? A breast line?
Don't understand how either of those can work in a Med moor, unless maybe attaching the breast to a neighbor boat...

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Post 90 is what confused me.....
Perhaps I should have said 'stern in first'? Does that clear things up?
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Perhaps I should have said 'stern in first'? Does that clear things up?
Ah.

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My home marina has laid mooring lines and docking assistants usually in a rib but most of the smaller marinas don't and you have to deploy the anchor and go stern-to between other boats with no side dock. Cross winds [Meltemi] an issue too especially in the afternoon and the early evening. On the plus side no tides and usually little or no current and more than proficient at praying due to my Irish Catholic upbringing .
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