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10-01-2017, 08:02 AM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Originally Posted by 4yanks
Thanks again everyone! All of your suggestions should help fill in my traveling hours and then some.
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FWIW, we've found it useful to get books -- and various systems documentation -- in softcopy format whenever possible, to minimize storage requirements on the boat.
Between Kindle, Nook, and Google Play -- and PDF downloads from system manufacturer's sites -- we've been able to build us a decent reference library that can live on each of our two tablets and each of our two laptops...
As for basic books, Chapman's, Beebe, Calder, etc... various books on docking and handling... etc...
-Chris
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10-01-2017, 08:28 AM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Don’t forget to enroll in boater safety classes. That would be first on my list. Both the Coast Guard and Power Squadron provide theses classes as well as others. I know several folks who tried to become boaters without embracing Boaters Safety. They all sold their unused boats. What you do well, you do often. What you fear you stay away from.
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10-01-2017, 09:00 AM
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Member
City: North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 10
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Thanks once again to all. I have read a couple on the list already. Both my wife and I have e-readers and tablets. As much as we both love the feel of a book in our hands, we became digital converts years ago. So I appreciate the inclusion of online resources as well. Of course I've idled away more than a few hours already digging through TF!
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10-01-2017, 09:06 AM
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Member
City: North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 10
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Originally Posted by Pgitug
Don’t forget to enroll in boater safety classes. That would be first on my list. Both the Coast Guard and Power Squadron provide theses classes as well as others. I know several folks who tried to become boaters without embracing Boaters Safety. They all sold their unused boats. What you do well, you do often. What you fear you stay away from.
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Couldn't agree more. We own a 23' power boat now that we keep in Beaufort,NC. We took an online (BoatUS) safety course before we bought it. We hope to take a trawler specific training course next spring. This one will be more about acquainting ourselves with trawlers if we are still interested we will take more detailed courses as we get closer to retirement in late 2019.
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10-01-2017, 01:04 PM
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Guru
City: San Francisco
Vessel Name: Speedy Charlotte
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 679
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Book Recommendations
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4yanks
Couldn't agree more. We own a 23' power boat now that we keep in Beaufort,NC. We took an online (BoatUS) safety course before we bought it. We hope to take a trawler specific training course next spring. This one will be more about acquainting ourselves with trawlers if we are still interested we will take more detailed courses as we get closer to retirement in late 2019.
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I took the online courses and they were helpful, and I also had to train with an instructor for around 20 to 25 hours before my insurance company was comfortable letting me operate the boat without an instructor.
BUT, there is no substitute for just getting out there and doing it. Just make sure you have the proper safety equipment (and know how to use it), and take a baby step approach to sea conditions.
The swells we experienced a week ago would have given my wife and I a bit of anxiety 9 or 10 months ago when we first got the boat, and now they are no big deal.
That said, there are sea conditions that many on this forum would not be worried about that would probably terrify me. In fact I'm sure that's the case.
My goal is to experience things in baby steps and work up my confidence in myself and the boat gradually.
Of course, sea conditions can always be a bit of a surprise, so I watch the forecast very carefully and assume that the conditions will be worse than forecasted, leaving a margin for error. I also take into consideration that at this time the boat can likely take more than we can, so if we were to find ourselves in 10 foot seas instead of 5, we'd likely be fine. Especially since we have a liferaft and EPIRB.
But if I see a forecast of 5 to 8 foot seas at 9 seconds, I'm assuming I could easily run into 12 footers at 6 seconds and I'm staying home. 4 to 6 at 9 seconds, I would probably head out and feel things out.
Point is, I typically build a margin of safety for the unexpected, especially given my lack of experience.
As boaters gain more experience, they tend to operate at a narrower margin of safety (relative to a novice), or get lazy. My assumption, although I could be wrong, is that most accidents happen to very inexperienced, and very experienced boaters.
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10-01-2017, 07:56 PM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,820
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Originally Posted by CapRob
Hi 4yanks! Some of my favorites are:
- Seven Miles an Hour (Don Wallace)
- Life's a Ditch (Charles Dougherty)
- Newlyweds Afloat (Felicia Schneiderhan)
- Leap of Faith: Quit you job and live on a boat
(Ed Robinson)
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I also like the above list, plus:
Magazines are very good sources of well written stories.
Most books I've read by live aboard, world cruising sailors are pretty good. 90% of what they do is applicable to motor yachts.
I'd avoid videos and U-tube, unless you have time to waste.
Avoid How - To manuals until you can get hands-on practice.
Les Weatherritt's books about Crossing the Atlantic and Cruising around the Atlantic are wonderful books even if toy never get out of sight of land.
His sections about crewing, provisioning, weather and other things are OUTSTANDING.
Everyone should read his section in preparing the boat for bad weather.
Read books on subjects that you have no desire to ever do. That will add to your knowledge base and reinforce or reform your thinking. Remember, you don't know what you don't know.
Good luck.
Richard
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10-02-2017, 08:33 PM
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Book Recommendations
Richard,
Can you recommend any good marine weather books for dummies?
Asking for a friend...
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10-02-2017, 08:53 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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Two excellent books for land or sea bound use are Tristan Gooley's "How to Read Water" and "The Natural Navigator".. really wonderful in my opinion.
https://www.naturalnavigator.com/boh...ks-and-library
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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10-03-2017, 03:56 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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We used the Weather Identification Handbook. Pretty concise, written by the aptly named Storm Dunlop.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...ation_Handbook
Also, Chapman's has a very good section in it as well for weather.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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10-04-2017, 10:06 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Seneca Lake NY
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,627
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Originally Posted by cardude01
Richard,
Can you recommend any good marine weather books for dummies?
Asking for a friend...
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The USA today Weather book is a good one.
Lots of graphics and understandable for the average person.
US Power Squadron also offers a good Wx course...largely based on the USA today book and other boating related topics.
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2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
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10-04-2017, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: La Paz, BCS
Vessel Name: Ansedonia
Vessel Model: Californian/Carver 52CPMY
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 375
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Based on one of the early posts, I ordered the Radar Book. In the first 5 pages I was already learning new stuff.  Thanks for the suggestion.
Cheers, Bill
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10-05-2017, 11:59 PM
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Originally Posted by caltexflanc
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Ordered How to Read Water on your recommendation and just started it today. Very interesting and enjoyable book so far. Thanks.
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10-06-2017, 06:10 AM
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Senior Member
City: Bainbridge Island
Vessel Name: Mahalo
Vessel Model: 2018 Hampton Endurance 658
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 496
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Some friends are advising me on different aspects of the boat we are building. One of them said "and what are you doing for a liferaft?"
I replied that I wasn't going to get one until the first year we cruise to Alaska. That in WA/BC waters we aren't ever that far from land and surely we could make use of our tender. He was not impressed and told me to read a few books like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Overboard-Blu...ords=overboard
Just finished it last night. Oy vey. Good for us to see what has happened to some other unfortunate (or poor planning) folks.
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10-06-2017, 05:14 PM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Legacy
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 48E
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 124
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I enjoyed voyaging under power By Robert Beebe/Leishman, 3rd edition. Beebe is considered by many to be the father of the trawler revolution.
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