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04-20-2018, 06:01 PM
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City: Fairport, NY and Palm Coast, FL
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,879
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frogs, stickers and rubber gloves. So, my rule stands. any thread over 5 pages is for entertainment value. 
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04-20-2018, 06:01 PM
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#282
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 6,088
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Liberty and freedom once lost is almost if not impossible to get back
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04-20-2018, 06:06 PM
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#283
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Guru
City: East Coast
Country: USA
Vessel Name: M/V Maerin
Vessel Model: Solo 4303
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 832
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danderer
Looking at 33 CFR 83 as cited above, I'd read it that the operator needs to carry a copy of 33 CFR Chapter I, Subchapter E - INLAND NAVIGATION RULES (those being "the Rules"), not the Colregs.
A BOATER’S GUIDE TO THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RECREATIONAL BOATS -- which I believe is a CG pub, or at least hosted on the CG Boating Safety Division site -- also specifies "Inland Only".
I'm bored and pedantic today.
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Boredom notwithstanding, you are correct. 
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04-20-2018, 06:08 PM
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#284
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Guru
City: Queensland
Country: Australia
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,774
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A quick google search on american freedom lost brings up some interesting reading
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...obile&ie=UTF-8
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04-20-2018, 10:29 PM
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#285
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,048
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
Just to confuse y'all a bit, in CT you will receive a different color "state registration" sticker if your boat is documented than if it is not. Ha.
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Wow! In Alaska, if you are documented, no sticker or registration fees.
You all need to get your legislatures to stop robbing you....  
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04-20-2018, 10:33 PM
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#286
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,048
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver dave
frogs, stickers and rubber gloves. So, my rule stands. any thread over 5 pages is for entertainment value. |
Awesome! I am laughing out loud!
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04-20-2018, 10:43 PM
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#287
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Guru
City: Hampton, va
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Didi Mau
Vessel Model: 2003 Ocean Alexander 456
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,003
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NAVCENT doesn’t count
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Originally Posted by Maerin
For some documents, yes. For the Colregs, no. It must be a ready reference. But don't take MY word for it.... From the NAVCEN FAQ list: Navigation and Vessel Inspection Circular No. 01-16 announced the following electronic publications are acceptable: - U.S. Coast Pilot,
- Sailing Directions,
- Coast Guard Light List,
- List of Lights,
- tide-current and river-current tables,
- Notice to Mariners,
- Local Notice to Mariners,
- Notices to Navigation, and
- Vessel Traffic Services Rules.
Paper copies of certain publications are still required, including those not specifically listed in NVIC 01-16. Some examples are:
- Inland Rules (domestic regulation),
- International Code of Signals and Volume (SOLAS requirement), and
- Volume III of the International Aeronautical and Maritime Search and Rescue Manual (SOLAS requirement)
These publications are required in hard-copy because meeting the access and "ready reference" requirements may be challenging for many electronic devices.
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I am not in the navy and am not required to follow a Navy regulations. Federal law yes, naval regulations no.
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04-20-2018, 11:22 PM
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#288
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
Wow! In Alaska, if you are documented, no sticker or registration fees.
You all need to get your legislatures to stop robbing you.... |
Same here in California. Please don't bring this exemption from state registration to the attention of the governor or legislature.
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04-20-2018, 11:46 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,048
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Uscg????
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04-21-2018, 01:08 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,656
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OK, this thread has gone completely off the rails.
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04-21-2018, 08:36 AM
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Guru
City: Chicago/Montrose Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Sea Jay
Vessel Model: Non Trawler ;-) Ask me if it matters LOL
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 505
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When being boarded, what kind of anchor do the Coasties comment on the most?
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04-21-2018, 09:31 AM
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#292
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 6,088
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My boat is documented and is docked in FL with a home port in GA.
I am not about to ask GA if I still need anything displayed other than the name and home port. I dont want their grubby little hands reaching into my wallet.
When the locals point out, I do not display a GA or FL number, I tell them, a documented does not need those numbers. I dont have a FL tax decal because I am home ported in GA. They seem to accept this explanation. If am wrong, dont tell me. I rather bask in my ignorance. LOL IF proven wrong, by someone in authority, I will reluctantly correct the situation, pleading ignorance.
PLEASE do not tell me I am wrong. And I hope you will not turn me in. LOL
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04-21-2018, 10:27 AM
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Guru
City: Boston
Country: US
Vessel Name: Adelante
Vessel Model: IG 30
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 994
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
My boat is documented and is docked in FL with a home port in GA. I am not about to ask GA if I still need anything displayed other than the name and home port. I dont want their grubby little hands reaching into my wallet. When the locals point out, I do not display a GA or FL number, I tell them, a documented does not need those numbers. I dont have a FL tax decal because I am home ported in GA.
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A documented vessel must be registered in Florida, if used on Florida waters for longer than 90 days. In other words, you need to pay a registration fee if you dock your boat in FL for 91 days. Stiffing FL for the fees is a misdemeanor and not something I would be proud of.
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04-21-2018, 10:31 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 6,088
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoWhat
A documented vessel must be registered in Florida, if used on Florida waters for longer than 90 days. In other words, you need to pay a registration fee if you dock your boat in FL for 91 days. Stiffing FL for the fees is a misdemeanor and not something I would be proud of.
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I told you, not to tell me.
FL would make a killing in this marina.
Seldom do the big boats move and they are not registered in FL
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04-21-2018, 12:16 PM
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TF Site Team
City: JAX, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Hobo
Vessel Model: Krogen 42-120
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoWhat
A documented vessel must be registered in Florida, if used on Florida waters for longer than 90 days. In other words, you need to pay a registration fee if you dock your boat in FL for 91 days. Stiffing FL for the fees is a misdemeanor and not something I would be proud of.
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Hobo’s documented out side of Florida but is state registered since she spend more than 90 days a year there. Why mess around?
It nots cheap though, it’s practiclly free. She’s more than 30 years old and registered as an antique so we pay only $4.25/year.
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04-21-2018, 01:07 PM
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#296
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Country: United States
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,664
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Sure...its only $4.25 now, but its the "gummint" !!!! If you agree to $4.25 this year, they'll make it $4.50 next year!!! THEY'RE GOING TO BOIL THE FROG !!! You need to get that payment back, and get two big flags to fly off your bridge. First a "Don't Tread on Me" flag ( the bigger the better !!) and on the other side a flag that says "Remember Ruby Ridge ( or Waco, your choice )!! And then, just to let them know you are serious, you should get a gun rack and hang a few AR-15's in plain view. And if anyone knocks on your door, just yell " I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!" and don't let them in.
I just saved you $4.25. You're welcome !
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Did you get a documentation sticker ?
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04-21-2018, 01:17 PM
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#297
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Guru
City: LaConner
Country: USA
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,212
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snark, snark...
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04-21-2018, 01:47 PM
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TF Site Team
City: JAX, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Hobo
Vessel Model: Krogen 42-120
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
...PS
Did you get a documentation sticker ?
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No, what’s that? Am is suppose to have one? 
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04-21-2018, 01:53 PM
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#299
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 6,088
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
No, what’s that? Am is suppose to have one? |
Yup, stuck it to my forehead so all can see. 
Got one of those tattoo on my butt so they can quickly scan it and ID me.
I wear a collar with my ID tag on it too.
A cop asks me, how I am, I will give him all the ID I have in my wallet in hopes they can find the assisted home from which I wandered away.
What ID I am supposed to have and what ID I do have are not even closely related. Think they will accept, "It's in the mail"?
This message will self-destruct in 3 days, if I can find it again.
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04-21-2018, 02:17 PM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Country: United States
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,664
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The shark has been jumped.
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