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Old 04-19-2017, 10:27 PM   #81
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:17 AM   #82
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The Nordhavn 46 line of boats has crossed many an ocean and several circumnavigations. The Krogen 42 has also crossed oceans. Larger boats the 48s, and 54s, etc all the way up to the 62s of these lines have crossed multiple oceans.

They are still fiberglass boats with single engines (rather low powered) so that they have long ranges. Stabilizers, active or passive are highly useful. Most have watermakers although for an ocean crossing the normal tankage would be sufficient 300 to 600 US gallons.

The Diesel Ducks, Willards and DeFevers all are similarly capable boats although there are not as many of them.

While you certainly can design much more capable boats for ocean crossing than those mentioned you are not talking about a production boat but a one-off.

Clearly a steel hull would reduce the damage if you hit a submerged object at sea, but what is the real likelihood of that happening. Many of the other improvements we can name also have just a small increase in safety.

Anyway, the Nordhavn 46 has reigned as the ocean crosser since it was first produced. In part because the newer boats, the Nordhavn 47, etc have not sold in the same numbers.
I actually think the Krogen 48 is a better compromise in what you need and want in a boat. I think the Krogen 48 is the best passagemaker size if money is an object.
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I actually think the Krogen 48 is a better compromise in what you need and want in a boat. I think the Krogen 48 is the best passagemaker size if money is an object.
Richard, the Krogen 48 is a reasonable choice as the better of the two. It would be my preference if I were buying one or the other. Mostly because of livability of the Krogen 48 when not crossing oceans. The center stateroom, crash bulkhead and smaller pilot house windows of the Nordhavn 46 are advantages when crossing an ocean, negatives when coastal cruising.

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"Clearly a steel hull would reduce the damage if you hit a submerged object at sea, but what is the real likelihood of that happening."

Most cruisers will use the same "low power" routes shown in "Ocean Passages for the World" as shipping.

Sea Land cargo boxes lost from container ships have been the great fear for 5 decades.

They do not show up on radar and most cruisers helm watch wont catch them.

Steel might deflect severe damage , but quality GRP can do as well, or better..

There is little penalty (besides cost) to add skin layers to a good GRP cored boat to make it tougher, adding thicker steel gets heavy very rapidly.

In mid ocean things that go BUMP in the night are exciting.
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In mid ocean things that go BUMP in the night are exciting.
Yep! During the night one time off the north coast of the Dominican Republic we hit something, loud thug sound. Woke me. Frightened my wife. No water coming in. Continued on. Dove on the boat next day, no damage, no mark.

We were fortunate as the north coast of the DR is a lee shore with lots of rocky reefs. Makes you value the watertight crash bulkhead in some of the offshore boats.
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In mid ocean things that go BUMP in the night are exciting.

Oh, I thought things were gunna get R-rated here. Shucks
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