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Old 02-12-2021, 07:35 AM   #1
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Azimut 85 Agound, and Sunk In Marco Island

https://nbc-2.com/news/local/2021/02...-marco-island/

In the channel. Shoals moved. Apparently it ran aground at night, with seas pushing from the stern. Apparently the seas on the stern flooded the tender garage then filled the boat.

Sad

Its being called a total loss.

No doubt more to the story will unfold.
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Old 02-12-2021, 07:41 AM   #2
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It's definitely one of those areas where you want to check the LNMs and consult with your towing company's local station. The marinas, if you are heading to/from one are often another good resource.
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Old 02-12-2021, 08:00 AM   #3
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To me the interesting question is how running aground led to the sinking.
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Old 02-12-2021, 10:43 AM   #4
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To me the interesting question is how running aground led to the sinking.
Pooped; a condition every mariner should know.
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ok ill ask. what is pooped?
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Old 02-12-2021, 12:35 PM   #6
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I think it begs a question - Is there a boat size that can't be easily towed off a sandbar?

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Old 02-12-2021, 12:41 PM   #7
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ok ill ask. what is pooped?
When a wave comes up over the transom and deposits water into the boat. Depending on the design of the boat, amount of water and other factors this may just be messy (think small, well drained sailboat cockpit) or it may be catastrophic.
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ok ill ask. what is pooped?
Swamped. The first post; "the seas on the stern flooded the tender garage then filled the boat."
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Old 02-12-2021, 12:45 PM   #9
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Greetings,
Mr. m. "Also there is a verb poop, of ships, "to be overwhelmed by a wave from behind," often with catastrophic consequences"


From: https://www.etymonline.com/word/pooped


...and "tender garage":


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Old 02-12-2021, 01:41 PM   #10
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I think it begs a question - Is there a boat size that can't be easily towed off a sandbar?

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In short no.... but the practical limit barring really bad grounding for most assistance towers is probably in the 40-50 foot range. Even many of those will require a second or larger boat after the first shows up (probably making it salvage over membership ungrounding). Even then a lot depends on additional circumstances...not just length.


Depends on how hard aground, if there are significant tides, underwater gear/keel on the vessel, what towing vessel(s) are available, how heavy is the vessel, can the vessel be significantly lightened, type of bottom composition, skills of salvage crew, weather/other circumstances case the boat to sink r break up, is it necessary for environment/legal issues, will it cause more damage unless removed differently, insurance delays.... probably lots more if I thought about it and maybe other salvage experienced can chime in.


Even large ships get towed off.... but then look at the Golden Ray in Brunswick, Ga.
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You’ll love the tender garage, the salesperson exhorted!

Whoops.
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A boat does not have to be totally covered by water to be sunk. This is a total loss because the engines and much of the electronics are submerged. Not to mention all the soft goods in the cabin.

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Old 02-12-2021, 04:33 PM   #13
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Insurance claim and then buy a 90'.
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This is the third large boat in about a year where the claim was the tender garage was flooded. I don't buy it. Me thinks it's a captain in unfamiliar waters.

Used to be a lot of truck drivers that "swerved to avoid a deer." Not one fell asleep at the wheel.
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I was in a yard this December and looked at an Azimut about this size. It had a 1’x3’ hole below the waterline as if it had hit a log or deadhead. The laminate seemed very skimpy for that large a boat, maybe 1/2” - 5/8” thick. It would not take much to crack if it hit something hard at speed.
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I transited in and out of that channel 9/10 April 2020 and indeed over the very area where that yacht is grounded because I still have the my tracks and can read the day marker numbers in the video. I carried 5.5 feet of draft. I remained center-right in the channel on the way in, as recommended by the then current Active Captain guidance, at noon with my polarized sunglasses on in sunny weather and exited at 0630 following my inbound track. Inbound was at the stand of the tide at high tide of +3 feet and outbound was +1.4 feet ebbing. I had no issues. The video appears to show this vessel well left in the channel, but that's just appearance, hard to tell positively. I had never been through that channel before.
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To me the interesting question is how running aground led to the sinking.
I know how it happened to our company boat. The captain ran it over a sand bar at speed. The boat made it over the sand bar and back into deeper water. The props and shafts and rudders, didn't.

But, a lot of water came through the holes they left.
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I know how it happened to our company boat. The captain ran it over a sand bar at speed. The boat made it over the sand bar and back into deeper water. The props and shafts and rudders, didn't.

But, a lot of water came through the holes they left.
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Old 02-12-2021, 07:09 PM   #19
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I think the fact "the garage filled" is a bit of an irrelevant aside. Had there been no garage, there would have been a lazarette or something there. The point is that water was coming into the stern and was going to weight the boat down. It's really a battle between bilge pumps vs. the water covering the engines. With what most boats that size and type have, the bilge pumps don't stand a chance.

As psneeld said, removal from the sand bar is no easy task. Everything is working against tow and salvage companies.
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We passed the scene shortly after dawn the next morning. It was very foggy, winds were lite. We were doing less than three knots because if the visibility. The boat was still there. We passed close off the bow and saw 6 1/2 feet at the spot. We noticed that the boat seemed a bit down by the stern, so I wonder if they tore up struts and perhaps rudders. It looked like they may have been off channel when they hit, which is not surprising considering how foggy it had been all night. Sad--looked like a nice boat.
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