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Old 02-14-2016, 06:29 PM   #1
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Attempt to define Rec. Trawler

I have tried to get this form with no results to define what it is we are talking about in particular the recreational trawler. Here is my attempt feel free to pitch in.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:46 PM   #2
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well I'm not sure what tankage is required to curse all the way along the coast. Maybe a swear jar is more appropriate?
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This ought to be entertaining.

Think you have the basics. Will be interesting to see where it goes.

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It`s like a hippopotamus; hard to describe, but when you see one, you know what it is.
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It`s like a hippopotamus; hard to describe, but when you see one, you know what it is.
A floating hippopotamus that's a good one.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:31 PM   #6
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Why ?
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eyeschulman,
I crossed out #4,5,10 and 11.

However such words as often, may have, wish to believe and common seems quite vague. Wish to believe holds a lot of water though.

There are some boats that just don't measure up in some ways. I cruised an Albin 25 for 6 years and thought it was a trawler and still do. But they aren't heavier than average boats and IMO weight is the biggest identifier of the trawler boat. Rangers look like a trawler but their hulls are almost no different than most all Bayliners and no Bayliner is a trawler.

Perhaps it's a degree thing incorporating all the characteristics known to the breed. I definitely think it takes more than looks to be a trawler. Just super heavy dosn't make it either. Many boats not trawlers are presented as trawlers because it's vogue to pilot and own a trawler now. I'll call a boat as I see it and in case you're wondering eyeschulman I think your planing boat is a trawler.

A complicated poll could be done but then we'd just have a consensus of opinions but that's all we're likely to get anyway.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:44 PM   #8
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I've always said "if you really own a trawler, theres no need to ask, is this a trawler ?". You just know and there is no confusion. Everybody wants to be a trawler, and then they want to say "man I'm glad I had them big engines and flat bottom, I left that (whatever situation) way behind. Hull speed does not mean trawler,,, but high speed ability negates it.
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I'll stick my neck out on this one.

Californian, OA, Rangers, and many Mainships are at least slightly questionable. They all have a planing hull and are light enough to plane. Many will disagree w me and I usually think of the Californian and Manships as trawlers but the case for them is weak.

Carver, Sea Ray,Tollycraft, and Owens are not.

The following are.
NT, GB, AT, DeFever, Cherubini, Selene, Marine Trader, Most KK, Sundowner, North Pacific, CHB, Maple Bay, Willard, Monk, Pilgrim, Senator, Coot Fu Hwa, Island Gypsy, Marben and the Chantyman.

Some of these brands are not all trawlers. I speak of the ones we see here.
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well I'm not sure what tankage is required to curse all the way along the coast. Maybe a swear jar is more appropriate?
LOL! It says "tank age adequate for coastal cursing." I guess if you have rusty ol' tanks that start leaking in an old boat cruising the coastline, you just might have a trawler!
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I call my boat a yacht. If it's less than 39' it's a cabin cruiser. 😱😜
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I'll stick my neck out on this one.

Californian, OA, Rangers, and many Mainships are at least slightly questionable. They all have a planing hull and are light enough to plane. Many will disagree w me and I usually think of the Californian and Manships as trawlers but the case for them is weak.

Carver, Sea Ray,Tollycraft, and Owens are not.

The following are.
NT, GB, AT, DeFever, Cherubini, Selene, Marine Trader, Most KK, Sundowner, North Pacific, CHB, Maple Bay, Willard, Monk, Pilgrim, Senator, Coot Fu Hwa, Island Gypsy, Marben and the Chantyman.

Some of these brands are not all trawlers. I speak of the ones we see here.

How about Cheoy Lee?
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I think a trawler is best defined as any hull that has a large condominium attached.
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McGillicuddy,
Don't know them well enough and don't ever recall seeing a pic of a hull. But from pics Iv'e seen they look the part. But then some aren't that do.

What do you think and why?
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Old 02-15-2016, 12:13 AM   #15
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To me, a trawler is a beamy displacement hull capable of carrying a load at non planing speeds. It should have long range fuel capacity and be capable of foul weather operations. These are the characteristics of commercial trawlers that some yacht manufacturers are attempting to emulate.

CL did build some cruisers that were 'Trawlers' in that sense. Mine isn't one of them. I have a semi displacement hull with a large house. More of a fast three bedroom/two bath waterborne condo.
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Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know if all Monk branded trawlers were actually designed by either Jr. or Sr. Monk?

I know the Monk trawlers of the 80s were built in various places including Canada's east coast. I thought there were a bunch that came out of Taiwan as non-Monk, Monks. I think I may even recall Ed Jr. trying to stop them.
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With apologies, I am going to quote Tad Roberts from another forum post I read in the past.

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A "Trawler Yacht" is whatever you want it to be....I've been involved in a boat sold as a "Fast Trawler" design that was nothing more than a recycled sportfisherman hull with funny windows. The term may have been relevant back in 1967 when Grand Banks first started building their 36' and 42' displacement cruisers. At that time both Edwin Monk and William Garden were using either "Diesel Cruiser" (Monk) or "Diesel Yacht" (Garden). Garden also used "Diesel Boat", which is to the point. The marketing folks didn't find these terms very catchy. Beebe reports that some referred to them as "Northwest Cruisers" but I never heard that used by anyone.
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Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know if all Monk branded trawlers were actually designed by either Jr. or Sr. Monk?

I know the Monk trawlers of the 80s were built in various places including Canada's east coast. I thought there were a bunch that came out of Taiwan as non-Monk, Monks. I think I may even recall Ed Jr. trying to stop them.
Monk Sr. Passed away in 1973 he was 79 years old. I'm pretty sure the Monk 36 design was Edwin Monk Jr.
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Ahhhh... this topic again. I've never chimed in on the age old debate, but this time I will...

When my boat was built, the mission was long range cruising in a seakindly boat. I have a range of about 1,300 nm and cruise at 9 knots with a semi-displacement hull, full keel, protected running gear, and weigh about 100,000lbs. Basically, I meet all the requirements of the original post, but my boat doesn't look like an old fishing boat and have interior decor of a seafood restaurant. Is my boat still a trawler?

She is to me!
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Ahhhh... this topic again. I've never chimed in on the age old debate, but this time I will...

.... but my boat doesn't look like an old fishing boat and have interior decor of a seafood restaurant....

She is to me!
Now that right there is funny.
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