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12-03-2022, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member
City: Vandiver, AL
Vessel Name: SV Stella Polaris MV Sea Turtle
Vessel Model: 1978 VanDine Gaff rigged schooner, 1978 Grand Banks Classic Trawler
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Anchor chain marking
We will start the Loop in a couple of weeks. My anchor rode isn’t marked, and I’m looking for recommendations on how to do it?
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12-03-2022, 10:13 PM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Best method I found was to buy colored polypropylene 1/4" rope and weave it through the links. I found a supplier who had six different colors and would sell it my the foot. I used 20' lengths, but 5' to 10' would be more realistic. Don't tie the ends to the chain as only the first link or 2 will come out. It goes right through the windlass without issue. Probably have 300 plus deployments with no significant wear.
Ted
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12-03-2022, 10:54 PM
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City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
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^^^^^This
We have spent six years full time using this method
Rope lasts about 18mths
We buy 20m rolls at the $2 shop or big hardware store
Weave a few feet through chain at first mark - for us 40m
And every 20m after.
Also have a bit about 1m before the anchor to lets us know when it's about to come over the roller.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/syneco-4...-rope_p4313938
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12-04-2022, 06:44 AM
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
^^^^^This
We have spent six years full time using this method
Rope lasts about 18mths
We buy 20m rolls at the $2 shop or big hardware store
Weave a few feet through chain at first mark - for us 40m
And every 20m after.
Also have a bit about 1m before the anchor to lets us know when it's about to come over the roller.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/syneco-4...-rope_p4313938
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This is a new one to me, and very interesting. Is there any particular way you weave it through to minimize damage from the windless? For example, is it weaved to keep the line from sandwiching between links and the gypsy?
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12-04-2022, 07:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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I decided I only needed 2 marks. One at 50 feet, and one at 100 feet.
I spray painted a section of the chain at each of those and it has worked for me for many years. Every 3 or 4 years I would re paint.
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12-04-2022, 07:55 AM
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Member
City: Bainbridge Island
Vessel Name: Westward Drift
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Zip ties
We have bought colored zip ties and put 5 at each desired mark. Cut off the excess and use a different color for each desired length of chain (eg yellowmat 25’, red at 50’ etc). No problem going through windlass and will not fade over time.
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12-04-2022, 10:40 AM
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City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Join Date: Aug 2019
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I paint my chain (re-paint periodically when the marks are getting too worn). For a mixed rode, I use spray on fabric paint/dye for the rope section and that holds up well enough that it'll likely out-last the rope in most cases.
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12-04-2022, 10:44 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saraml
We have bought colored zip ties and put 5 at each desired mark. Cut off the excess and use a different color for each desired length of chain (eg yellowmat 25’, red at 50’ etc). No problem going through windlass and will not fade over time.
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I do the same with the exception I don't cut off the excess, never had any issue arise from the tails
Hollywood
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12-04-2022, 11:06 AM
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City: Centreville MD
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Anyone tried these gadgets? Expensive for what they are, but do they work?
https://www.westmarine.com/imtra-cor...-17192881.html
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12-04-2022, 11:29 AM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
This is a new one to me, and very interesting. Is there any particular way you weave it through to minimize damage from the windless? For example, is it weaved to keep the line from sandwiching between links and the gypsy?
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The line I use is very similar to double braid nylon. It's soft enough that it doesn't seem to be affected by the windlass. I guess it could be described as going through the center of the links and avoiding the outer part of the link to keep it off the windless gypsy.
Ted
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12-04-2022, 11:31 AM
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City: Sandusky Bay
Vessel Name: Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Don't tie the ends to the chain as only the first link or 2 will come out.
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What kind of weave keeps 5 or 10 foot lengths of ¼" rope in place on chain? We are still using the commercial markers the PO had added and are looking for a more visible solution.
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12-04-2022, 01:05 PM
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City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
The line I use is very similar to double braid nylon. It's soft enough that it doesn't seem to be affected by the windlass. I guess it could be described as going through the center of the links and avoiding the outer part of the link to keep it off the windless gypsy.
Ted
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Any chance of a picture or two?
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12-04-2022, 01:34 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Best method I found was to buy colored polypropylene 1/4" rope and weave it through the links. I found a supplier who had six different colors and would sell it my the foot. I used 20' lengths, but 5' to 10' would be more realistic. Don't tie the ends to the chain as only the first link or 2 will come out. It goes right through the windlass without issue. Probably have 300 plus deployments with no significant wear.
Ted
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Thought I was the only oddball. NOT.
I got fed up with paint and zipties.
I used yellow polypro 1/4" line and wove about two feet into the chain at each 25 ft mark. No special weave or preparation was needed as I found.
THis was an experiment for me as I had no idea if it would work.
That was about 6 yrs ago. None have come out yet nor are they showing any sign of doing so.
Just before the anchor came up I wove a 10' piece or RED dyneema in so I have a warning the anchor is close.
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12-04-2022, 01:49 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Rockland
Vessel Name: Jubilee
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42
Join Date: Aug 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FWT
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FWT,
We tried these and they did not stay in the chain well.
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12-04-2022, 01:53 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
Any chance of a picture or two?
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I'm out of country till next Sunday.
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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12-04-2022, 01:55 PM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadedToTexas
What kind of weave keeps 5 or 10 foot lengths of ¼" rope in place on chain? We are still using the commercial markers the PO had added and are looking for a more visible solution.
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Friction passing through the links holds it in place.
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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12-04-2022, 02:28 PM
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Guru
City: Sandusky Bay
Vessel Name: Escape
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So it is simply a short 2ish foot long piece of ¼" rope that is strung through the chain lengths? I can appreciate that friction may be all it takes as there should be no tension on the marker rope, but if you pulled on one end it would probably come out, right? Very interesting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
I found a supplier who had six different colors and would sell it my the foot.
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Remember who that supplier was? Thanks Ted.
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12-04-2022, 02:34 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saraml
We have bought colored zip ties and put 5 at each desired mark. Cut off the excess and use a different color for each desired length of chain (eg yellowmat 25’, red at 50’ etc). No problem going through windlass and will not fade over time.
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I had a Harbour Freight pack of zip ties, a hundred or so of 6 or so colours. Tied one on every 10 ft, changed colours every 50'. I left all the tails on with no issues. An extra couple when the anchor has risen to the surface, so I don't get a surprise when it reaches the roller. Also an extra mark when the end of the chain is a few feet from arriving at the gypsey, again to avoid a surprise when I have to deal with the chain to rope connections. This way for several years and continues to last well.
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12-04-2022, 02:38 PM
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Guru
City: Malmö
Vessel Name: ABsolutely FABulous
Vessel Model: Greenline 33 Hybrid (2010)
Join Date: Nov 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnsleyS
FWT,
We tried these and they did not stay in the chain well.
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I agree. It took me an afternoon to install them and only a couple of uses for them to all fall out
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2010 Greenline 33' Hybrid
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12-04-2022, 03:24 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadedToTexas
Remember who that supplier was? Thanks Ted.
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https://www.knotandrope.com/collecti...ypropylene-mfp
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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