American Tug Waypoint 36 concept

[MurrayM]

Originally Posted by BandB

What is it with it having elitism. Actually my comments were based largely on the words on their website talking about who the boat was targeted to. Young families don't have the luxury of taking hiking days as they have work to return to.

They actually state, "This layout will offer more accommodations than other boats in class and be a perfect cruiser for younger families or those with grand kids."

One could assume then, that those with grand kids (or, gasp, even younger families) just might be "serious trawler people" as you call them.

That must be the bit that stuck in my craw...assuming someone with such a boat couldn't be considered "serious".

Our daughter is still in high school and our family has managed to see a lot of the north and central coast of BC in our scrappy little boat.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

They actually state, "This layout will offer more accommodations than other boats in class and be a perfect cruiser for younger families or those with grand kids."

One could assume then, that those with grand kids (or, gasp, even younger families) just might be "serious trawler people" as you call them.

That must be the bit that stuck in my craw...assuming someone with such a boat couldn't be considered "serious".

Our daughter is still in high school and our family has managed to see a lot of the north and central coast of BC in our scrappy little boat.

I look at it as I described. I would see them pushing the AT on other potential buyers. You can look at it different. I spoke highly of the boat and you act like somehow I demeaned it. It isn't a trawler so not for those serious about owning a true trawler. I'm not sure what the fight is that you want but I'm not in it since I don't know what side you think I should be taking. I think it could be a nice boat to fill a market need but I don't know whether it will succeed or not.

[MurrayM]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

That must be the bit that stuck in my craw...assuming someone with such a boat couldn't be considered "serious".

There...I isolated it for you. A bare bones boat with plywood furniture could do some "serious" cruising, particularly on the northwest coast of North America.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

There...I isolated it for you. A bare bones boat with plywood furniture could do some "serious" cruising, particularly on the northwest coast of North America.

Someone with a canoe could be serious.

[MurrayM]

Originally Posted by BandB

Someone with a canoe could be serious.

We agree then

You threw me earlier when you stated that "serious trawler people" wouldn't be interested in this boat.

[markpierce]

It tries to do too much: so many berths (6). Who can stand more than one overnight with six people aboard? Prefer boats this size be designed to sleep 2 comfortably, with provision for a couple of very short-term guests.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by markpierce

It tries to do too much: so many berths (6). Who can stand more than one overnight with six people aboard? Prefer boats this size be designed to sleep 2 comfortably, with provision for a couple of very short-term guests.

Older retired people and couples without kids do prefer as you describe. I'd prefer the larger stateroom and salon and fewer staterooms. Families with two kids or more plus their friends prefer all the space possible, also with brothers and sisters who have kids and come along.

Just like houses, the tendency is to provide all the sleeping space possible. The extra stateroom adds to value. New, the extra stateroom does sell. Doesn't mean it's what everyone would want. I have a captain friend who this past week took a 68' Searay to the Bahamas with 8 guests and a crew of 2 so 10 people total. Larger boats cram even more staterooms, wanting to accommodate all the charter guests they can.

[dhays]

I really agree with BandB. I see this as an ideal entry boat for the family with kids (small people you can cram into that small cabin) or grandparents that would like to take their small grandkids with them on the boat for a week or weekend.

Really, I think this is a great idea and I think (hope) they will be successful with it. I would love that boat. If my wife didn’t feel the need to bring our kids, their kids and spouses with us, I think it would be wonderful. I would just need to add a diesel furnace and I’d be set. I don’t tend to stay at a single anchorage for days on end, so the lack of a generator wouldn’t be a problem. My only gripe is the lack of a covered cockpit. Around here, I’ve seen a number of that type of boat with a canvas extension covering the cockpit.

[MurrayM]

I'd convert (non destructively) that hidey-hole guest cabin into a photo editing/office area with home dried and bulk food storage at the back.

Retirement plans are to stay in photogenic anchorages for weeks at a time, and stretching out marina visits for fuel to the maximum (with a sensible reserve).