Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-20-2022, 10:33 AM   #1
Guru
 
firstbase's Avatar
 
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,612
Air Horns 101

Went to the boat yesterday and it had decided that it was time for me to take a class on Air Horns. This was indicated by it throwing my FIAMM "TA/N?" onto the forward deck. Very rude. I believe, not sure, that it is original to the boat. I didn't have time to look behind the console above the lower helm to see what is what but it seems to be air not electric. It is operated by a push-button at the FB helm as well as the lower. Is about 17" in length, trumpet style.

Searching for FIAMM horns and find two models that look like mine. A TA/NR (higher tone) and a TA/NS (lower tone). Mine shows "TA/N with the last letter appearing to be "A" but can't find any references to a TA/NA".

These don't look very sophisticated, just a horn with a small compressor wired to 12v. Doesn't seem to be any driving reason to replace with the same make/model horn. What are the good quality brands/models for replacements these days?
__________________
Hal
BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
firstbase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 10:52 AM   #2
Veteran Member
 
AnsleyS's Avatar
 
City: Rockland
Vessel Name: Jubilee
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 62
First,


I have two Kahlenberg horns and they sound great.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Air Horn k-380_brochure.pdf (984.3 KB, 90 views)
AnsleyS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 10:53 AM   #3
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,610
I have these horns. Very happy with them.

https://www.airhornsoftexas.com/coll...rain-air-horns
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 04:17 PM   #4
Member
 
Alguires's Avatar
 
City: Kelowna
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 16
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg

Bought these through Amazon last year. Better than the old single air horn. Look great and very loud.
Alguires is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 07:22 PM   #5
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,976
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnsleyS View Post
First,
I have two Kahlenberg horns and they sound great.


I installed Kahlenberg horn 6 years ago and have been extremely happy with mine.

Ted
__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 08:02 PM   #6
Guru
 
firstbase's Avatar
 
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alguires View Post
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg

Bought these through Amazon last year. Better than the old single air horn. Look great and very loud.
Thanks for the replyies, everyone. The horns in this pic from Amazon, what brand are they?

Looked at the Kahlenberg collection. Obvious quality but I don't see one small enough (compressor/tank) to fit in my overhead console where the old equipment is. Again, I haven't looked at it to get the specifics but it is a small area. Will do so tomorrow.
__________________
Hal
BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
firstbase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 09:04 PM   #7
Member
 
Alguires's Avatar
 
City: Kelowna
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by firstbase View Post
Thanks for the replyies, everyone. The horns in this pic from Amazon, what brand are they?



Looked at the Kahlenberg collection. Obvious quality but I don't see one small enough (compressor/tank) to fit in my overhead console where the old equipment is. Again, I haven't looked at it to get the specifics but it is a small area. Will do so tomorrow.


Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2972.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	126.5 KB
ID:	128838

This is from the Amazon.ca website. Price in CAD. Probably different on the US site.
Alguires is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 09:12 PM   #8
Guru
 
Lepke's Avatar
 
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,703
I use a air horn from a scrapped ship. When I toot everyone listens.
Lepke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2022, 11:03 PM   #9
Guru
 
HopCar's Avatar
 
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,069
I was a dealer for both of these. Both made beautiful horns.

Buell
https://www.buellairhorns.com/

Kahlenberg
https://www.kahlenberg.com/
__________________
Parks Masterson
HopCar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 12:10 AM   #10
TF Site Team
 
koliver's Avatar
 
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,081
I feel your pain
several years ago, when driving my first Motorhome, I encountered rudeness on the freeway that got me blasting the big airhorns on the roof. My first time, and the blast was forgettable. Soon after, I went to the Western Star truck store in Kelowna BC and bought a new pair of proper truck horns. Once installed on the Motorhome, I brought the old Motorhome air horns to the boat, thinking to replace the boat horns and get a bigger bang for my buck. The old Boat horns were air powered, from a small compressor attached directly to the horns by a little air pipe. Big mistake to think a swap would work. That little compressor provided just barely enough air to power one horn, but using that , I lost the two tone from the originals. Then I started looking into making this work. For thousands, I could get it to work, Buell, Kahlenberg, etc, all the great horns out there are pretty $$$pendy. But I already have the horns, why not just add a little compressor. Ha! Think you can get away with cobbling something together and have it work out ?
Might as well just put back the originals.

Sorry if I can't actually help. It just takes enough commitment to spend $$$$
__________________
Keith
koliver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 06:48 AM   #11
Guru
 
OldDan1943's Avatar
 
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 9,525
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepke View Post
I use a air horn from a scrapped ship. When I toot everyone listens.
The original single trumpet air horn on the AT has a small compressor that fits in the overhead but really didn't announce that I was there. I added 2 more trumpets and a Harbor Freight compressor and air tank.
Now when I sound the horn, everyone knows I am near by. Everyone looks for a BIG Hatteras LOL

Now to complete the project, I am searching for a stand alone high pitch 'toot toot' air horn that I can use around the marina. The type that one would expect on a cartoon type tug.
Suggestion are appreciated.
__________________
The meek will inherit the earth but, the brave will inherit the seas.
OldDan1943 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 09:09 AM   #12
Guru
 
jleonard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,608
Something like this?
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_2698.jpg   IMG_2697.jpg  
__________________
Jay Leonard

New Port Richey,Fl
jleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 09:35 AM   #13
Guru
 
OldDan1943's Avatar
 
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 9,525
A steam whistle? Have you tried it, with success?
How many psi of air do you need and use?
__________________
The meek will inherit the earth but, the brave will inherit the seas.
OldDan1943 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 11:59 AM   #14
Guru
 
jleonard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,608
Dan, I sent you a PM
__________________
Jay Leonard

New Port Richey,Fl
jleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 12:27 PM   #15
Veteran Member
 
City: BREMERTON
Vessel Name: Dream Weaver
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander/Pilot House
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 63
I have Nathan P2 air chimes and a wimpy electric horn. The air horn gets everybody’s attention. The wife and dog hate the air horn so I’m careful when I use it. So I keep the horn selector switch set to wimpy most of the time.
jp
DW1979OA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 04:01 PM   #16
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,976
Quote:
Originally Posted by firstbase View Post
Thanks for the replyies, everyone. The horns in this pic from Amazon, what brand are they?

Looked at the Kahlenberg collection. Obvious quality but I don't see one small enough (compressor/tank) to fit in my overhead console where the old equipment is. Again, I haven't looked at it to get the specifics but it is a small area. Will do so tomorrow.
I chose to run mine off a 13 cuft. scuba tank and adjustable 1st stage regulator. It takes very little volume to drive my horn. A whistle takes a huge volume. The tubing is plastic automotive air line tubing (extremely inexpensive). The 1/4" OD tubing makes it pretty easy to relocate the supply (compressor or tank).

Click image for larger version

Name:	20220521_164353.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	144.0 KB
ID:	128874

I've refilled the tank twice in 5 years.

Ted
__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 10:09 PM   #17
Veteran Member
 
City: Duvall, WA
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 63
The nav rules have a list of frequency ranges based on the length of the boat. Does anyone actually care about that "rule"?
pjtemplin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 10:16 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
HTurner's Avatar
 
City: Corpus Christi
Vessel Model: Willard Vega Horizon
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjtemplin View Post
The nav rules have a list of frequency ranges based on the length of the boat. Does anyone actually care about that "rule"?

https://www.kahlenberg.com/knowledge...2-colregs.html
HTurner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 10:27 PM   #19
Guru
 
OldDan1943's Avatar
 
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 9,525
The regs are minimum.
The intent of the reg is to ensure a boater is 'seen'.
__________________
The meek will inherit the earth but, the brave will inherit the seas.
OldDan1943 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2022, 10:41 PM   #20
Veteran Member
 
City: Duvall, WA
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by HTurner View Post

Right. Knew that. My question stands: does anyone care? Anyone ever had the Coast Guard actually check, or say "that horn sounds too low for the length of your vessel"? I mean this horn is sold as being for a vessel 20-75m, but only one of the five elements is high enough to be compliant.



https://www.kahlenberg.com/model-f-3...-air-horn.html
pjtemplin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Trawler Port Captains
Port Captains are TF volunteers who can serve as local guides or assist with local arrangements and information. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. To learn more about this program read here: TF Port Captain Program





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012