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07-13-2017, 05:07 PM
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#161
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,984
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Speed is relative. Relative to how much money you have. I'll go slow.
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07-13-2017, 05:36 PM
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#162
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 20,554
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Generally you can go far or you can go fast, but you can't go far fast.
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07-13-2017, 05:49 PM
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#163
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
LOL!  Man Art, I am going to steal this one! 
Al-Ketchikan
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07-13-2017, 06:55 PM
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#164
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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07-13-2017, 07:28 PM
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#165
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
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> > "I want a boat that will run 55-60 knots and cruise at 45-50 knots" - That's good speed for a quick boat.
> > "They were nice boats at 70 mph but not so much at 90+" - I went on a few rides with John. Only once did he surpass 90 mph. Boat was squirrelly as heck in the water at that speed. John builds all his own engines for boats and race cars. Quite the accomplished race engine mechanic!
> > "No market for such a boat." - That's correct!! John spent two years before getting it sold. Started in the low $40K's. Then dropped to Mid $30K's. Then high $20's Then mid $20's; held it there for some time. Eventually it sold, but I'm not sure how low he had to go. I'd bet $20K or just below got the deal done.
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07-13-2017, 07:59 PM
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#166
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Only once did he surpass 90 mph. Boat was squirrelly as heck in the water at that speed.
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Wifey B: That's the word I needed....and very squirrely
One of the dealerships on the lake once had a racing boat in their showroom of some sort supposed to run 120-130 mph, but illegal to run except in races or official practice sessions. No one knew of it ever actually winning a race either.
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07-13-2017, 08:00 PM
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#167
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
Generally you can go far or you can go fast, but you can't go far fast.
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I found that by towing a larger fast RIB you could get just about all the speed you want from the RIB and a larger boat to easily stay on with the base boat.
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07-13-2017, 08:22 PM
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#168
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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07-13-2017, 08:34 PM
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#169
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Guru
City: Salvador - BA
Vessel Name: Rainha Jannota
Vessel Model: Curruira 46
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 667
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Life begins @ 6 knots
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07-13-2017, 08:39 PM
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#170
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,746
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I would imagine a boat getting "squirrelly" at 90 mph must be a near death experience. No thank you.
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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07-13-2017, 08:57 PM
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#171
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
I would imagine a boat getting "squirrelly" at 90 mph must be a near death experience. No thank you.
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Wifey B: Especially not when it's something like an 18' boat or something which without the engine weighs maybe 1000 pounds.  I'm fine with 60-70 mph tops.
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07-13-2017, 08:58 PM
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#172
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,277
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When I wanna enjoy my time, look at the scenery, be in seclude places alone, and watch mother nature in all her splendor, I have a boat. When I want to go fast and have sensations of speed I have car. Perfect balance.
L.
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07-13-2017, 09:18 PM
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#173
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
When I wanna enjoy my time, look at the scenery, be in seclude places alone, and watch mother nature in all her splendor, I have a boat. When I want to go fast and have sensations of speed I have car. Perfect balance.
L.
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Wifey B: Boats are a lot more fun to run fast than cars. Well, cars would be, but they have speed limits on the roads and I'm a good girl.
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07-13-2017, 09:23 PM
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#174
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,984
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I had a custom flats boat made with Airex, 16 feet with a 90 two stroke, fast little boat but around the high 40s she would chine walk which was OK in flat calm water but that wasn't often. I gave it to my son who fished with me often so he knew the boat well, he loves it but he is younger. LOL
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07-13-2017, 09:29 PM
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#175
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: Especially not when it's something like an 18' boat or something which without the engine weighs maybe 1000 pounds.  I'm fine with 60-70 mph tops. 
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John's near 100 mph top end Fountain brand speed boat was 27', quite heavy and very stable at most speeds. However ,at 90 mph plus even that heavy duty really cool and comfortable speed boat was ready to fly! And... flying boats can kill!!
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07-13-2017, 09:31 PM
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#176
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,277
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: Boats are a lot more fun to run fast than cars. Well, cars would be, but they have speed limits on the roads and I'm a good girl. 
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Hum sorry I do not agree, you may try to drive a fast car on a road in the middle of the alps mountains or on track, you will see what sensations means
L.
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07-13-2017, 09:44 PM
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#177
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 27,697
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You want fast, fly 10 feet above the boat doing 90 at 200 knts, zoom climb to 1000 feet and barrel roll.
Trying to hit smugglers in the head with landing gear was also kinda fun.  .....took more skill....
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07-13-2017, 09:59 PM
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#178
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: Boats are a lot more fun to run fast than cars. Well, cars would be, but they have speed limits on the roads and I'm a good girl. 
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Well... you may be a good girl on traffic filled roads in general... but, having read many of your posts... I'm not believing for a minute - that same "good girl" exists on roads that are vacant of traffic!
Sooo.... I am a good boy on roads when there is traffic... but... when no traffic exists, my 1967 Wildcat's recently professionally rebuilt factory stat 430 cid, 360 hp. 500 ft. lbs. torque muscle car engine loves to be let loose and simply GO!!!
149 mph was top end original mfg stats for my car stemming from road tests during year of production. From a few relatively mild engine and exhaust modifications I believe she has about 25 added hp. Meaning she now has about 385 hp. total. I've buried the speedometer a few times on desolate flat roads. Though I didn't dare hit GM's mfg stats of 149 mph top end. Know for sure I had her in the high 130's!
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07-13-2017, 10:16 PM
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#179
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,984
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Art
I have a BMW. M6 ( my toy car), its was to fast for me but my kid and get in it and make it rock, I don't even line to ride shotgun with him behind the wheel. I enjoy driving it up to 120 and that's it.
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07-13-2017, 11:05 PM
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#180
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Wifey B: I know nothing about roads without traffic. Where would you find those? I wouldn't mind a few laps in a race car or something. Seriously, my car has 530 hp and top speed around 190 and it's never been over about 90 mph and that would have been passing or something. Now, if I was somewhere open and no speed limit, it would be different. Someone mentioned Alps, but it's a long drive to them from Fort Lauderdale.
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