2 Men in a queen sized berth?

[mvweebles]

Weebles, based upon my observation, unless parents gain control, I worry for the next generation of women. They will miss out on how we treat women.

I tell my sister this about her son (my nephew) all the time. The kid is 17 and still has the manners of a sloth.

My dearly departed father has been dead for almost 20 years. I still feel him grabbing the back of my collar from time to time. So much so that when a woman thanks me for a simple thing such as holding a door or elevator, I tell her to thank my dad. He embarrassed the heck out of me when I was a kid. Glad he did.

Peter

 

[OldDan1943]

Lots of great ideas (and humor!) here!

If I cant find "bundling boards (see first reply) on Amazon, we are going to go the air mattress/sleeping bag approach!

Many thanks, all!

Starboard makes ideal bundling board and it can be recycles into something with other uses after they get married unless you have more than on daughter.

 

[BandB]

Weebles, based upon my observation, unless parents gain control, I worry for the next generation of women. They will miss out on how we treat women.

Wifey B: Thank god.

 

[BandB]

Okay. I've been casually watching this thread. Peggie, WifeyB, I'm sorry to inform this is just a Venus and Mars thing. At the risk of speaking for Mars, we are more than fine with women sleeping together. We are NOT fine with sleeping with another guy. A v-berth is barely acceptable as long as you check your Alpha Manhood at the door. Barely. I don't care how you spin it. Its just the way it is. It's part of our charm. It's part of why you love us. It's the same gene that sometimes doesn't notice when you get your hair trimmed or nails painted and yet when we walk with you, we are always on on the street side of the sidewalk. The same part that gives you our jacket even through we're cold too, and it was your own damn fault for not bringing yours. It's a package deal. I can't explain why.

Call me a troglodyte.

Peter (knuckles dragging)

Wifey B: Peter Troglodyte. You said to call you one.

I accept there's a difference, but I don't attribute it to genetics, but to training and learning generation after generation. Perhaps that accounts for the huge sales of girl-on-girl porn to men. I have news for you though, Generation Z is far different than your generation.

However, the part I struggle with is that somehow sharing a bed is automatically sexual. It surely can be done in a completely non-sexual manner. Separate covers do it. Turn outward. Even climb into side by side sleeping bags if you must protect yourself against those body parts you so fear. I ask most of you if you didn't share beds with male relatives or friends growing up? My hubby did with his cousins often and didn't have any adverse impact. Two kids sharing a bed, even two teens, not threatening, but somehow adults is. As parents, did you ever share a bed with your son while traveling or anything?

If you're uncomfortable, you're uncomfortable, but perhaps you might think about why you are. If it's just something you attribute to some internal wiring or something, perhaps time to really think it through and decide if it's logical. Or just avoid.

 

[hmason]

I’ve learned to sleep standing up. No issue for me.

 

[mvweebles]

I'm not explaining it, I'm just saying how it is. Not sexual, not worried about perceptions. Just how it works in the animal kingdom. There is one lion in the pride. Lots of juniors hanging around, lots of lionesses, but in the end , one lion.

Wifey B, there are many things us guys don't understand about women. We accept and love you anyway.

Guys just aren't comfortable sleeping together. It's just how it is. You can overlay whatever you want. In the end, it just is.

To the OP: invite your friends. You're over thinking this. They'll figure it out. Personally, I'd bring a sleeping pad and claim a corner. Let's me nap when I want.

Thor

 

[hmason]

Now to complicate things. I’ll only get a massage from a female. A massage from a male would not be something I’d look forward to. OK, Wifey B, I agree it’s just my insecurities.

 

[BandB]

Wifey B, there are many things us guys don't understand about women. We accept and love you anyway.

Guys just aren't comfortable sleeping together. It's just how it is. You can overlay whatever you want. In the end, it just is.



Thor

Wifey B: We may never know why because it's not logical. I must admit that I'd be less comfortable sharing a bed with a man, other than my hubby, than with another female. Must be the appendage that somehow we all find threatening.

 

[Peter B]

I have had this problem for years and am still looking for a solution.

It seems most 30 to 40-some foot boats are built to sleep 2 couples or a couple and a family. I occasionally like to take my male friends out for a weekend fishing trip. Problem is, with 2 queen berths I can only sleep 2 men comfortably. And we usually have 4 or 5 men in the party.

Do any of you have a solution to this? SPecifically looking for ways to utilize the queen berths to sleep 2 makes. Have already tried sleeping the buddies on couches, air mattresses on the cabin sole, etc.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Having read most of the posts, I have to say, "talk about making a mountain out of a molehill" - albeit many were quite amusing.

But for heavens sake..! The OP's situation is surely one which calls for contingency plans. Guys out fishing for a night or two and not enough beds for all to be singles.

You just do what I think Headmistress first suggested. Separate sleeping bags, and top and tail if you must, and just deal with it FCS..!

 

[Miz Trom]

Sleep is sleep. Guys, anything you fearfully attach to bunking together is hogwash.


I'm shocked, truly shocked, that men would be so reluctant to share sleeping quarters for a night.


Cheers,
Mrs. Trombley

 

[Gris]

In the army, there were several times you had to 'close bunk' with another dude in a tent made of two shelter halves, in the back/under a vehicle, or on the floor at some outpost. You learn really quickly that when you're tired and only get a few options for sleeve, you make due. People are resilient creatures and can adapt to change (even as temporary as an overnighter!)

It's not a big deal unless you make it a big deal. There's literally nothing different than sleeping sitting up in a plane with other random people beside you (similar rules apply, except substitute the 'don't cuddle' general rule with 'don't slump against someone.'

I've hot-racked with dudes on trips, camping in the same tent on the trail, or crashing in a hotel room to save cash. If you know and trust your buddies, it's really not an issue unless you don't trust yourself.

A camping sleep-mat may provide a bed for people who are squeamish about being too close to someone else, so suggest that option if people are being weird about it. Separate sleeping bags also make a good barrier. Otherwise, sleeping arrangements will make themselves, and everyone can laugh about it later.

As much as you don't want to cuddle your buddies, I guarantee they don't want to cuddle you back. Sleep is necessary, and it's not going to hurt anyone to share a queen bed . . . Though a full might be a little too close for comfort.

 

[BruceK]

Sleep is sleep. Guys, anything you fearfully attach to bunking together is hogwash.


I'm shocked, truly shocked, that men would be so reluctant to share sleeping quarters for a night.


Cheers,
Mrs. Trombley

Absolutely. Pointedly, no one asked the obvious, is the "sharer" attractive? Cute, even.
Please forgive the drift, tomorrow is Federal voting day after 6 turgid weeks of political "campaigning". Any distraction, even 2 guys sharing a Queen(!) bed for a night, becomes interesting.

 

[Jack2427]

After a career in the military, I find the discussion needless, on the other hand they don't call the bunk queen size for nothing.......

 

[OldDan1943]

When it is dark and rainy, fighting a forest fire and only the piece of WWII canvas, maybe 3x4ft and some guy wants to share it with you, a guy cant say NO.
I had the canvas.(to wrap up and protect the equipment)... With 2 of us under that canvas it kept us semi dry and our body heat kept us warm. We never discussed that night..... LOL we were not the only 2 in the crew that shared the canvas. We were all so tired, we were only interested in sleep. It was the next day they air dropped WWII paper sleeping bags and WWII rations. Gotta love that fruit cake, I miss it.

 

[kthoennes]

Peter/Mvweebles is right. There it is. Yep, what he said. And it's not entirely obsolete. My boys open doors for women, say ma'am to old ladies (and we're not even southern), you use titles instead of names when appropriate, you call teachers Mr./Mrs./Ms. whether they'd otherwise use first names or not, and if there's a woman stranded on the side of the road you offer to help (men stranded on the side of the road, you try to be helpful too but that depends on circumstances). And the man pays for dinner for a good while, until maybe you're married. And if a girl drops something, you bend down and pick it up for her, even if she's a peer. The girls and boys track teams were killing time on the infield between races a couple weeks ago and one of the girls dropped a relay baton. My son picked it up and handed it to her. Good man. And it's awkward to double bunk with random guys, unless you're sharing the V-berth with your brother. I'm not raising barbarians.

 

[OldDan1943]

Putting 2 people in a queen size bed will fit. 3 people, you have to rope yourselves together. I know this for a fact!!!

 

[CaptTom]

3 people, you have to rope yourselves together. I know this for a fact!!!

Do we want to hear the story behind that one?

 

[ljk]

Additional context

Having read most of the posts, I have to say, "talk about making a mountain out of a molehill" - albeit many were quite amusing.

But for heavens sake..! The OP's situation is surely one which calls for contingency plans. Guys out fishing for a night or two and not enough beds for all to be singles.

You just do what I think Headmistress first suggested. Separate sleeping bags, and top and tail if you must, and just deal with it FCS..!

Just to add some understanding, the "guys" are wounded and disabled military vets, some of which, because of things like PTSD, etc. may be sensitive to sharing a bunk.

I agree, sleeping bags and air mattresses are the way to go, also telling the vets what the sleeping arrangements are and if they have an issue, we can schedule them on another type of trip.

 

[ScottC]

Didn't you do this in Boy Scouts? Was it really a problem??

 

[OldDan1943]

Do we want to hear the story behind that one?

Tom, 2 women, Yen, her mother and me. Was so crowded and being a gentleman, left the bed to the ladies.

Now for the men, a disappointment, we had our clothes on.

 

[wkearney99]

THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS.

 

[ljk]

Boy Scouts

Didn't you do this in Boy Scouts? Was it really a problem??

In Boy Scouts we had tents with separate air mattresses and sleeping bags. But THAT was in 1962!

In 2016 I went on a Boy Scout camping trip with my grandson. We had space age sleeping bags and separate cots! And our own personal chef who cooked the shepards pie in aluminum foil to our order over the campfire!

Times have changed!

 

[OldDan1943]

What happens on the boat,
1. stays on the boat
2. never happened

 

[Osprey69]

Peter/Mvweebles is right. There it is. Yep, what he said. And it's not entirely obsolete. My boys open doors for women, say ma'am to old ladies (and we're not even southern), you use titles instead of names when appropriate, you call teachers Mr./Mrs./Ms. whether they'd otherwise use first names or not, and if there's a woman stranded on the side of the road you offer to help (men stranded on the side of the road, you try to be helpful too but that depends on circumstances). And the man pays for dinner for a good while, until maybe you're married. And if a girl drops something, you bend down and pick it up for her, even if she's a peer. The girls and boys track teams were killing time on the infield between races a couple weeks ago and one of the girls dropped a relay baton. My son picked it up and handed it to her. Good man. And it's awkward to double bunk with random guys, unless you're sharing the V-berth with your brother. I'm not raising barbarians.

Ding Ding Ding!

 

[Wayfarer]

That's odd, I've got the exact opposite problem. All sorts of room and not nearly enough men to share it with.

 

[LandlockedInUT]

My take on the dilemma is that as long as you don't push back or make eye contact, it'll be fine.

Yes, bundling boards were used to stop intimacy between 2 people in a bed. But keep in mind they were not 100% effective…

Hence, how the glory hole was invented.

 

[Bacchus]

Didn't you do this in Boy Scouts? Was it really a problem??

Boy Scouts? We never... never... had queen beds to sleep in!
Sleeping bags yes beds of any sort only in your dreams

 

[markpierce]

When high-altitude/inclement backpacking, I never had a problem sharing a two-man tent with a buddy, sleeping in separate bags. In my boat, I share a bed with my cutie, under covers.