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Old 07-26-2021, 04:13 PM   #1
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Just as I was preparing to depart Friday Harbor this morning, a CBP officer strolled by my boat. Seizing the moment, I asked her what guidance they had received re returnees when the Canadians open their border.

"Same as always, only essential travellers. (wait for it...). All US Citizens and documented permanent residents are essential travellers."
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:38 PM   #2
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Just as I was preparing to depart Friday Harbor this morning, a CBP officer strolled by my boat. Seizing the moment, I asked her what guidance they had received re returnees when the Canadians open their border.

"Same as always, only essential travellers. (wait for it...). All US Citizens and documented permanent residents are essential travellers."

Hm... that is actually encouraging. How does it look for you getting into Canada at this point? There still seems to be the confusion over requiring that vaccination documents get uploaded to there app, but they won't take them for folks entering via water....
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Old 07-26-2021, 07:10 PM   #3
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I'm confused. Who is returning from where to where?
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Old 07-26-2021, 07:21 PM   #4
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I'm confused. Who is returning from where to where?
The question I asked the CBP pertained to my potential return from a hypothetical trip to Canada after August 9.
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Hm... that is actually encouraging. How does it look for you getting into Canada at this point? There still seems to be the confusion over requiring that vaccination documents get uploaded to there app, but they won't take them for folks entering via water....
Yeah, I haven't attacked that end at all. I think I'm waiting for their next announcement.
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Hm... that is actually encouraging. ...
Funny, I knew the answer all along, just didn't think it out. I once misplaced my passport and called CBP for advice. The guy on the phone said, "It will be simpler if you know your number (as I did), but in the end, we cannot deny a citizen entry to his own country".
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Greetings,
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I think I'm waiting for their next announcement.
As will many others, including the MV Coho.
Black Ball is waiting on an answer, for why a RORO car ferry travelling between Port Angeles and Victoria, should be treated differently than 500 cars lined up and allowed access to Canada, at the Peace Arch crossing.
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From the previous posts, it seems I’m not totally current on the news. Is it the case - as DHays’ post suggests - that there is still some question about whether vaccinated US boaters will be allowed into Canada? I’ve often wondered if there was some marine-specific news about the August 9 opening, but I’ve never seen anything along those lines.

I transited Canada to Alaska in 7 days in the spring, and was hoping to take a nice leisurely cruise down the BC coast to return. I know that the “don’t touch ground” transit through Canada will still be available to US boaters transitting south from Alaska to WA or beyond. But it would sure be nice to have a positive confirmation that we will be welcomed into Canada at Prince Rupert with an invitation to enjoy ourselves (responsibly) on the way south.

Anyone?
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From the previous posts, it seems Iím not totally current on the news. Is it the case - as DHaysí post suggests - that there is still some question about whether vaccinated US boaters will be allowed into Canada? Iíve often wondered if there was some marine-specific news about the August 9 opening, but Iíve never seen anything along those lines.

I transited Canada to Alaska in 7 days in the spring, and was hoping to take a nice leisurely cruise down the BC coast to return. I know that the ďdonít touch groundĒ transit through Canada will still be available to US boaters transitting south from Alaska to WA or beyond. But it would sure be nice to have a positive confirmation that we will be welcomed into Canada at Prince Rupert with an invitation to enjoy ourselves (responsibly) on the way south.

Anyone?

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I have to admit the scope is a little difficult to follow. You were in Friday Harbor (Washington, United States) and a CBP (Canadian Border Patrol) walks by???

OK, so you ask "what guidance they had received re[garding] returnees when the Canadians open their border."

If you are in the US and are a US citizen, you're not a returnee.

If you are Canada and are a a Canadian citizen, you're not a returnee.

If you are in the US and are a Canadian citizen, you are a returnee to Canada

If you are Canada and are a US citizen, you are a returnee to the US

The context of the OP is not clear.
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I have to admit the scope is a little difficult to follow. You were in Friday Harbor (Washington, United States) and a CBP (Canadian Border Patrol) walks by???


The context of the OP is not clear.
Sorry to have written such an opaque post. CBP is a widely used abbreviation for Customs & Border Patrol here in the States where I would be unlikely to en counter a Canadian officer of the law walking the docks.

If you look at my second and third posts it seems clear to me that the discussion is about potential restrictions on a US citizen returning to the US from Canada.

The answer: there are none.

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
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You were in Friday Harbor (Washington, United States) and a CBP (Canadian Border Patrol) walks by???
Nothing unusual there. LEOs from BC and WA have a Ship Rider program, where they join up (usually involving lunch) on either side of the border and it is no surprise to see CBSA (Canada Border Services Agency), not CBP (Customs and Border Protection), on a US dock and vice versa.

The rest? Well, best to refer you up the page, to post 7
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Because there is absolutely no available moorage in Port Renfrew, I will be staying in Sekiu in a couple of weeks. I am wondering if the reciprocity agreement allowing US citizens to enter and fish Canadian waters (after registering daily to the WA Fish & Game) will go back into effect. This permissive policy was suspended at the time of the original border closure. Does anyone know more than I do? Thanks!
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Yes, CBSA does.
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Funny, I knew the answer all along, just didn't think it out. I once misplaced my passport and called CBP for advice. The guy on the phone said, "It will be simpler if you know your number (as I did), but in the end, we cannot deny a citizen entry to his own country".
But itís not simple and not quick. Both you and they are better off avoiding that situation.
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Right of return

I would believe the border guys but I read that in Washington the rules are stricter and that pleasure craft are considered non-essential
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what border?

I've seen a lot of confusing posts here and elsewhere about the border, including from CBP (Customs and Border Protection).

On the CBSA page at https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...nada-checklist under the heading Requirements for entering Canada by private boat you will find:

"You currently cannot enter Canadian waters for optional reasons, such as:

touring
sightseeing
pleasure fishing
visits to cottages/vacation homes across the border"

This is right below all the welcoming messages about crossing by land or air. Acquaintances in CA have confirmed this is what they are told when querying CBSA on behalf of US friends.

I check it almost daily, hoping for an update. Nothing yet.
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