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Old 05-30-2020, 07:46 PM   #1
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Angry Cruise Ships prohibited entering Canada

Don't think boarder is going to open any time soon...

Cruise ships with overnight accommodations allowed to carry more than 100 persons are prohibited from operating in Canadian waters until October 31, 2020.
As of July 1, 2020, all other passenger vessels must follow provincial, territorial, local and regional health authority requirements for timelines and processes to resume operations.
Passenger vessels with the capacity to carry more than 12 persons continue to be prohibited from entering Arctic coastal waters (including Nunatsiavut, Nunavik and the Labrador Coast) until October 31, 2020.
Beginning July 1, 2020, passenger vessels will be allowed to operate in inland rivers and lakes in the Northwest Territories, Nunavut and Yukon.
https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-c...r-31-2020.html
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:52 PM   #2
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There clearly needs to be reforms for health standards on cruise ships. I would be ok with them be being denied to load or unload passengers in the USA until new standards are enacted.

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Old 05-30-2020, 09:42 PM   #3
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What about this makes you angry? It sounds more than reasonable to me given the situation that existed with cruise ships and COVID. What I mean by that is not only did they end up with many cases, but they kept on taking passengers long after it was obviously not prudent (even on ships that had infected crew or virus from the previous sailing).

Or are you mad because it's too lenient toward the cruise ships?
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Hand washing has been a big deal on cruise ships for some years. They have also required a health-question inquiry concerning bowl movements before boarding. Have not experienced those procedures for airplane flights, where passengers are all crammed together for hours. Betcha most all of the VIRUS came from airplane passengers, not cruise ships. (Most cruise-line passengers use the airlines to meet their ships.)
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:51 PM   #5
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...Betcha most all of the VIRUS came from airplane passengers, not cruise ships. (Most cruise-line passengers use the airlines to meet their ships.)
Do cruise ship staff get paid sick days?
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:52 PM   #6
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I’m not mad at anyone.

But perhaps there shouldn’t be any cruise ships at all. Until we have control over the virus’s. Just too many people confined in a place where they can’t leave. Just presenting the question.
As it is one needs too much luck to board.
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Old 05-30-2020, 11:10 PM   #8
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I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

What I do know is that you wonít see that in Haines this year. No big cruise ships in SE this summer, and probably very few of the smaller ones as well.
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I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

What I do know is that you won’t see that in Haines this year. No big cruise ships in SE this summer, and probably very few of the smaller ones as well.
Obvious that they aren't welcome now. You need more time to get used to me.
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Obvious that they aren't welcome now. You need more time to get used to me.
Itís been a tough day for me today, I actually got out of pajamas, and it all went downhill from there.
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Old 05-31-2020, 02:15 AM   #11
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Just getting my cruise fare refund. No way would I be signing up for another at this stage, maybe never.
Free unlimited service at the onboard Medical Center, free helicopter Medivac, free Hospital treatment onshore OR, free coffin and Burial at Sea Ceremony (with Wake) sound more enticing than the Drinks Passage. Waiting for an enterprising cruise company to offer it.
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Hand washing has been a big deal on cruise ships for some years. They have also required a health-question inquiry concerning bowl movements before boarding. Have not experienced those procedures for airplane flights, where passengers are all crammed together for hours. Betcha most all of the VIRUS came from airplane passengers, not cruise ships. (Most cruise-line passengers use the airlines to meet their ships.)
How about health care screening for all employees before each new trip. How about sanitizing boats between trips. How about figuring adjusted capacities to comply with social distancing in areas like dining rooms. How about air purification for rooms with hundreds of people.

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How about health care screening for all employees before each new trip. How about sanitizing boats between trips. How about figuring adjusted capacities to comply with social distancing in areas like dining rooms. How about air purification for rooms with hundreds of people.
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All the above are a good start!
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Mr. OC. That would cut into the profits and drive some companies out of business. Fewer companies, less competition, higher prices.
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I'll ask again...paid sick days for cruise ship workers?
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Mr. MM. I'm still trying to figure out "bowl movements".


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I'll ask again...paid sick days for cruise ship workers?
Sick leave? I just read an article that more than 100,000 crew members are stuck at sea on those ships around the world. Letís figure out a way to get them home. Weíll save the sick leave discussion when the cruise industry gets going again, if it ever does.
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Sick leave? I just read an article that more than 100,000 crew members are stuck at sea on those ships around the world. Letís figure out a way to get them home. Weíll save the sick leave discussion when the cruise industry gets going again, if it ever does.
Those stuck at sea will not find their solution here on the forum.
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I don’t know why this is a surprise to anyone, especially on this coast.

I think BC and AK are more on the same page than the self-indulgent cruise companies and their clients. I don’t believe either can be trusted to do right, by the people of BC and AK.

By geography alone, Alaska has self-isolated and have the best stats of all states. Their COVID defenses are more aligned with BC than other states and AK will continue to have a 14 day quarantine in place for some time.

The latest phase of Alaska’s reopening, which began May 22 is very similar to BC with one glaring exception; America’s number one pastime is in fully operational again…the buffet.
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Hand washing has been a big deal on cruise ships for some years. They have also required a health-question inquiry concerning bowl movements before boarding.
Yeah, like Charley Cruiser is going to be honest about those two functions.
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