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Old 05-29-2021, 04:55 PM   #101
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We are in Blaine, WA and the local newspaper, "The Northern Light" (Community Newspaper of Blaine and Birch Bay), is stating the border will reopen 22 June.

However, Canadians can freely come to the USA but going back they have to quarantine.

To me it does not seem fair to the Canadians.
I think the reopening should either be unilateral with no restrictions or the USA should wait to open the border until this can happen.
I am always nervous about these interpretations. Does this really mean that the US is opening the border for fully vaccinated Canadians and the Canadian border remains closed? I have yet to receive any credible information other than discussions are happening.
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Old 05-29-2021, 05:21 PM   #102
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I don't any final answer. At this point it is anybody's guess.
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Old 05-29-2021, 05:24 PM   #103
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We are in Blaine, WA and the local newspaper, "The Northern Light" (Community Newspaper of Blaine and Birch Bay), is stating the border will reopen 22 June.

However, Canadians can freely come to the USA but going back they have to quarantine.

To me it does not seem fair to the Canadians.
I think the reopening should either be unilateral with no restrictions or the USA should wait to open the border until this can happen.
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I am always nervous about these interpretations. Does this really mean that the US is opening the border for fully vaccinated Canadians and the Canadian border remains closed? I have yet to receive any credible information other than discussions are happening.
Local news said DC is thinking about opening southbound to force Canada to negotiate. The only response I have seen is coming North by plane you no longer need to quarantine in a hotel.
So, Canadians may be able to go south and return home, but the Americans cannot until we get 75% vaccinated.
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Local news said DC is thinking about opening southbound to force Canada to negotiate. The only response I have seen is coming North by plane you no longer need to quarantine in a hotel.
So, Canadians may be able to go south and return home, but the Americans cannot until we get 75% vaccinated.
Do you have a source for this? All I have heard is that some "experts" are in favour of abandoning that particular restriction. Nothing official has been said, whatsoever, AFAIK
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As usual Canadian policies are mess: contradictory, arbitrary, inconsistent, hypocritical, etc. Recently some female political hack, a government minister, got caught breaking the rules of her own department, but of course she never got fired for it since she was high on the 'itersectionality' scale. That's very important in ever so 'woke' Canada.
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Mr. JW. Are you suggesting the previous Canadian government was less "...contradictory, arbitrary, inconsistent, hypocritical, etc."? If so....


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Do you have a source for this? All I have heard is that some "experts" are in favour of abandoning that particular restriction. Nothing official has been said, whatsoever, AFAIK
I heard him say it, but cannot find the video, it was on Global this week. It was since the panel recommendation. It could have been while he was being translated.
Trudeau plans to attend the G7 in two weeks in the UK in person. Removing the three day quarantine would make sense to have his entourage return without quarantine.
This link is the closest to repeating it.
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I heard him say it, but cannot find the video, it was on Global this week. It was since the panel recommendation. It could have been while he was being translated.
Trudeau plans to attend the G7 in two weeks in the UK in person. Removing the three day quarantine would make sense to have his entourage return without quarantine.
This link is the closest to repeating it.
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Now we just need to be patient. Again
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Old 05-29-2021, 09:34 PM   #109
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There have been international vaccination cards for decades already. I had a few myself..yellow fever, and a few others were required for certain countries.
Of course this is easy to do. But the US Feds have unequivocally stated they are not going to do it. Because of "privacy and personal freedom" concerns. This is quite the cop out. Provide the means, make it optional, anyone with sufficient "privacy and personal freedom" concerns needn't apply. If Canada won't let them in as a result, that is a "personal" problem, and not one for the rest of us.
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As I understand it, to cruise on a cruise ship from a US port, the ship needs 100% crew and 95% passengers vaccinated.This requirement comes from the USA CDC

I am assuming the vax card provided is good enough.

My guess is they are thinking if people falsify cards, close quarters travel has always been risky, if you have been vaccinated you should have a legit card but don't really have to worry, if most passengers are vaccinated, they might have a few cases buy not an outbreak, and if you fabricated your card because you aren't vaccinated....well you get what you get.

I think that's Florida's view on not even requiring cards anywhere/anytime...and maybe the rest of the world may sit back and see how well it does or doesn't work.
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The EU is debating having a "Yellow Card" and who knows what will happen.

Ireland is now letting people from the US in without time spent in a hotel. One does have to have a negative test a few days after arrival.

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Mr. JW. Are you suggesting the previous Canadian government was less "...contradictory, arbitrary, inconsistent, hypocritical, etc."? If so....


No, when I wrote "as usual", I meant to suggest that previous ones were similar. That's what......as usual....means..
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I saw this in a Canadian news header this morning.

“New York Democrat, 2 Trudeau Liberals push to reopen U.S.-Canada border”
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It is being widely reported that remarks by Trudeau in the last day or so indicate that border restrictions will be softened before the end of June. Proof of vaccination will be required and possibly a Covid test on arrival. The latter depends on the vaccination rate in Canada. If it holds at current levels (likely) no test will be required as they will have achieved 75% of the entire population having had at least one dose which provides 85 -89% efficacy according to multiple studies.
Sadly, the US is unlikely to reach 60% in the same timeframe.
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Some parts of the US are already there, in fact well past that. Some parts will never get there because they are populated by vax deniers. Education level seems to be the best predictor of which is which. The US is at the point that anyone that wants a shot can get a shot. Around here you can walk into any drug store and get one straight away.
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The opening of the border will require a degree of confidence in the safety of citizens already on their home side of that border, from invasion of the virus across that border. With some areas of both countries not close to a "Safe" level of vaccinations, it will be a while yet.
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