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Old 11-13-2020, 06:04 PM   #1
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What is the Californian 34 Actual LOA? My slip has a hard limit of 35ft

Hi Gang,
I am in the market for the wonderful Californian 34 Sedan LRC.

My slip in Santa Barbara has a hard limit of 35ft and not an inch over.

My guess, I will have to drop the swim step and Stub the nose?

Has anyone ever dropped a plum line and got the very tip to tip length?

Any input much appreciated.



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Old 11-13-2020, 07:54 PM   #2
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I don't think you will make it. Probably 18" for bow pulpit and another 18" for swim platform- 37' LOA.

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Old 11-14-2020, 12:23 AM   #4
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Swim step has to come off and yes the bow will get what we call the Santa Barbara stub nose.
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Can you do a folding swim platform?
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Can you do a folding swim platform?
I can do anything as long as the boat tip to tip is not one inch over 35ft.
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Then I would look at getting rid of the bow pulpit and maybe leaving some room for a folding swim platform. There are a lot of boats out there that donít have a pulpit.
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Old 11-14-2020, 11:36 PM   #8
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We haven't got ours officially measured yet. I'll let you know when I find out.
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we haven't got ours officially measured yet. I'll let you know when i find out.
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Then I would look at getting rid of the bow pulpit and maybe leaving some room for a folding swim platform. There are a lot of boats out there that don’t have a pulpit.
Mine is one of them. I had to remove the pulpit (but fortunately, not the swim platform) to fit into the max allowed dimensions for my slip.

I don't think it came out too bad.
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Then I would look at getting rid of the bow pulpit and maybe leaving some room for a folding swim platform. There are a lot of boats out there that donít have a pulpit.

I'm in the same situation. I have been looking into Marine Trader 34 sedans (and similar boats). Our club has a hard LOA limit of 38', and all of the 34's I have seen bust that limit. I have been considering ways of shortening/hinging both the bow pulpit and swim platforms to get within the 38' limit. It would be great to hear about and see some pictures of how other people have tackled the problem of "shortening" the LOA of their boats.

Hope I'm not getting too far off topic here; but it looks as though the OP may also be looking for a way to shorten his boat.
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Mine is one of them. I had to remove the pulpit
What was your final LOA?

Pictures?

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Donít know if I would hinge the bow pulpit. I think that I wouldnít trust it to hold in a heavy blow. I think it might be better to just go without one.
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To trim LOA on the bow, I agree, no hinged pulpit. Just come up with the shortest overall length pulpit / roller setup that'll fit your desired anchor and go for that. The size of the anchor is likely what will limit how much length you can trim there.
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What was your final LOA?

Pictures?
Well, mine is a Prairie 36, not a Californian 34 (nice boat, BTW!) so the actual numbers won't help.

My avatar shows how it looks now. Below is what the bow looked like with the pulpit removed. Note that I used cedar shingles, a hammer and heat to slowly loosen the adhesive, probably something like 5200, to remove the old pulpit.


Below is the "after" image. The hinged section is 1/2" aluminum. The hinges are heavy-duty stainless and the whole thing is held down by removable fittings so I can flip it up when I'm in my slip. It turns out aluminum is as easy to work as wood, you just have to go a lot slower. It's been rock-solid.
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Thanks Tom,
Ya that looks solid, depending on how much I have to shorten I may go the route you did or if I can just cheat a litte out and not have the folding option I will go that route.

Still hoping for some exact LOA numbers of the Californian.
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The reason the anchor roller has to stick out so far is so the anchor wonít hit the hull when it is up. One way to save length would be to have the roller right at the tip of the boat and not sticking out like the photo. Only put the anchor in the roller when you are anchored. Use a Fortress anchor so it is lighter and easier to handle. When it is not deployed store it on deck with anchor chocks. That would be the ultimate way to save length at the bow. If you do mount anchor chocks on the bow make sure to do the screw holes properly. Check out marinehowto.com for directions about how to make sure the screw holes do not leak into the deck core and make a huge problem.
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Will do Dave,
However, Will be using the trusted Bruce anchor 100%
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A Bruce will be much more difficult to store on deck. Maybe get a Fortress for day to day and keep the Bruce stored below. The Fortress actually works very well and is lightweight and more easy to retrieve. Keep the Bruce for overnight and heavy weather???
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A Bruce will be much more difficult to store on deck. Maybe get a Fortress for day to day and keep the Bruce stored below. The Fortress actually works very well and is lightweight and more easy to retrieve. Keep the Bruce for overnight and heavy weather???
Thanks for the advice, however I will stay with my Bruce at all costs.

I've run many boats, including a light boat for squid and anchoring is everything.. Bruce is the master out here on the west coast / Chanel Islands.

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