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01-24-2023, 07:41 AM
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City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by Jcslocum
Thanks for all of the info! You guys are great and I appreciate your sharing.
We plan to cruise and anchor extensively. I see the need for a genny and AC. We are 65, newly retired and spoiled ��
The Bimini is a normal dice and doesn’t leave a lot of space for solar. I have found an 8kw genset locally at a very decent price. I would do the install and probably have a pro wire it up.
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What is the 8kw that you found locally? I assume it's used, or maybe new but been sitting around a while? If it's a Fischer Panda, run a way while you still can.
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01-24-2023, 07:51 AM
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 5,579
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Originally Posted by twistedtree
What is the 8kw that you found locally? I assume it's used, or maybe new but been sitting around a while? If it's a Fischer Panda, run a way while you still can.
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When I decided to install a generator, I checked the used market. Figured wouldn't be a problem finding a used generator. The only small marinized ones I found were FPs. After some research, I became convinced people had replaced them with something else due to issues. Too bad - it's an interesting design with water jacketed powerhead. Not a bad idea for hi-output alternators.
Peter
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01-24-2023, 08:32 AM
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City: Eastern Shore MD
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Well, this question is now moot. An offer we made on an Island Gypsy that has a generator has been accepted and we are moving forward with this boat. I appreciate all the info shared.
the generator we found is a Mastervolt.
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Eastern Shore. MD
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01-24-2023, 08:37 AM
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,677
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Great !
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01-27-2023, 01:53 PM
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Member
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Brass Ring
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 22
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New Next-Gen 5kw $15k installed
We lived with solar panels and a Honda 2000 for 6 years. Finally broke down. The 36’ Heritage single 6BT 5.9 didn’t come with a genset so it was a full install. Absolutely love it. Can barely hear it outside and not too bad inside. San Diego
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01-28-2023, 08:07 AM
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
Vessel Model: IG 36 Quad Cabin
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,867
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Good to see another(potential) IG owner on the forum.
I know I am biased however IMHO they are great boats. Is it a classic aft cabin or the Europa style?
At the risk of starting an avalanche of posts does it still have its teak decks?
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01-29-2023, 02:47 PM
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Senior Member
City: Naples Fl
Vessel Name: Phantom
Vessel Model: Cheer Men PT41
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 124
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Unless it's a Fischer Panda (yes run!) - go for it, particularly as you're happy to do your own install. I spend a lot of time on the hook and wouldn't be without mine. I have 1300 watts of solar, so only use it minimally for hot water etc., but still consider it a must have.
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01-29-2023, 04:47 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 18,587
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If I were in need of a genset I would absolutely do the install myself. I might have the mechanic do some of the work if it is really tight and I couldn’t fit in there. I have a pretty small mechanic and if need be his father in law is even smaller. I just had them replace the raw water pumps on my engines because I couldn’t reach the port side one.
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01-29-2023, 08:34 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12,806
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcslocum
Well, this question is now moot. An offer we made on an Island Gypsy that has a generator has been accepted and we are moving forward with this boat. I appreciate all the info shared.
the generator we found is a Mastervolt.
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Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it. My last boat was an IG36, my current boat is a derivative. IG usually installed an Onan 6.5.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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01-29-2023, 08:43 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 18,587
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcslocum
Well, this question is now moot. An offer we made on an Island Gypsy that has a generator has been accepted and we are moving forward with this boat. I appreciate all the info shared.
the generator we found is a Mastervolt.
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Good luck with the new boat, possibly. Hope it works out well.
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01-30-2023, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member
City: south kingstown
Vessel Name: Albatross
Vessel Model: 1973 Grand Banks 36
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 439
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Originally Posted by Jcslocum
Hello all,
We are looking at a 36 double cabin. The boat has never had a generator installed and if we buy this boat we would want to have power when away from the dock. How hard is placement of a Gen unit in the engine bay?
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I am refitting a 1973 GB36 which never had a generator. I am taking a different approach. I plan to install more battery capacity and an inverter. I will carry a Honda 2.2KW gen on the rear deck which I can plug in to the shore power for charging when necessary or maybe to run a toaster in the morning. They are about $1200 and I will be carrying gasoline for the dinghy outboard anyway. This is purely a budget decision, but I think it will be workable and less complex overall.
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01-30-2023, 09:30 AM
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 5,579
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronobrien
I am refitting a 1973 GB36 which never had a generator. I am taking a different approach. I plan to install more battery capacity and an inverter. I will carry a Honda 2.2KW gen on the rear deck which I can plug in to the shore power for charging when necessary or maybe to run a toaster in the morning. They are about $1200 and I will be carrying gasoline for the dinghy outboard anyway. This is purely a budget decision, but I think it will be workable and less complex overall.
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Have you considered ditching the Honda and going with a couple solar panels instead?
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01-30-2023, 09:49 AM
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Member
City: Eastern Shore MD
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 9
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Thanks again for all of the different responses! I will be moving my posts to the Island Gypsy page from now on.
Yes the boat still has teak decks. I’m not thrilled with this but will work with them or remove them.
The solar option is on my mind instead of a generator. With the cost of a used 8k genset being roughly 6,000.00, a lot of batteries and solar can be installed. This would limit or eliminate the use of the AC when away from a dock. It would probably limit use of a water maker as well.
We shall see.
Over to the IG page now.
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01-30-2023, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: south kingstown
Vessel Name: Albatross
Vessel Model: 1973 Grand Banks 36
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 439
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I do plan to use Solar. This is sort of belts and suspenders. One of the features to this approach is I don't have to modify the boat in any way. I can begin cruising before investing/installing S/P. If I find that I don't need it, or find a better way or hit the lottery, I can just take the gen off the boat. Thanks.
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01-30-2023, 10:25 AM
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Senior Member
City: south kingstown
Vessel Name: Albatross
Vessel Model: 1973 Grand Banks 36
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcslocum
Thanks again for all of the different responses! I will be moving my posts to the Island Gypsy page from now on.
Yes the boat still has teak decks. I’m not thrilled with this but will work with them or remove them.
The solar option is on my mind instead of a generator. With the cost of a used 8k genset being roughly 6,000.00, a lot of batteries and solar can be installed. This would limit or eliminate the use of the AC when away from a dock. It would probably limit use of a water maker as well.
We shall see.
Over to the IG page now.
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I have heard of W/M being run with batts & inverter system.
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01-30-2023, 10:59 AM
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Guru
City: Toms River
Vessel Name: V E N T U R E
Vessel Model: 1996 36' Island Gypsy Classic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,341
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Jon, Hope all goes well with your IG36 purchase. We really like our 36IG Classic. It has a 5kw Westerbeke which has been very reliable. One thing I like about having a generator is you do not have to go overboard with an elaborate battery bank if you don't want to. We only have 4 golf cart batteries for both starting and house bank. Of course the genny has its own battery. Has worked well for us. Have cruised the boat from the Great Lakes to the Florida keys!! Many great memories. Good Luck. Peace
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02-02-2023, 08:12 AM
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Senior Member
City: Middle River
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 136
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The saga of the SS Phelps continues- Boat has no generator. Diesels are beyond my budget considering boat is an 84. Got a GOOD deal on a westerbeke 4.5KW. But it's gas. OK guys, have at it why I should do or not do it. For what I'm paying for it, I could probably sell parts off it for more, so I'm rolling the dice. Question is SHOULD I do it, and are there aspects I have not considered. It would go it the lazarette.
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02-02-2023, 08:26 AM
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Guru
City: Vermont
Vessel Name: Luna C.
Vessel Model: 1977 Marine Trader 34DC
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SIBERNUT
The saga of the SS Phelps continues- Boat has no generator. Diesels are beyond my budget considering boat is an 84. Got a GOOD deal on a westerbeke 4.5KW. But it's gas. OK guys, have at it why I should do or not do it. For what I'm paying for it, I could probably sell parts off it for more, so I'm rolling the dice. Question is SHOULD I do it, and are there aspects I have not considered. It would go it the lazarette.
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I personally would not install a gas generator on a diesel boat. I would rather invest in solar.
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02-02-2023, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member
City: Middle River
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 136
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I'm a weekender and occaisional anchor out, not a long distance cruiser.
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02-02-2023, 08:31 AM
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Guru
City: Vermont
Vessel Name: Luna C.
Vessel Model: 1977 Marine Trader 34DC
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SIBERNUT
I'm a weekender and occaisional anchor out, not a long distance cruiser.
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Our use profile is the same. I'm working on a plan for adding a house bank. I have no generator or solar at this time.
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