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05-11-2018, 10:24 PM
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City: Rutherfordton
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14 Panga
Mike at Slayer Skiffs down in Perry FL is building us a 14' panga to be the tender for our newly acquired 40' Monk.
We're super excited about it. I'll post more pics as the process comes along. He's built a couple bench seats along the port and starboard sides. It's gonna be a pretty cool little boat.....
I'll keep you posted.
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05-11-2018, 10:34 PM
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Greetings,
Mr. PH. That looks pretty sweet. What the weight and size motor will she take? Great shot of the two young men...
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05-11-2018, 10:43 PM
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RT,
Thank you! We're going to put a 30 horse Honda on it. A 20 would have pushed it along fine but I wanted the extra hp as we plan to use the boat a lot as a skiff/ adventure boat vs. simply a tender. I think the 30's weigh in at 150-160 pounds.
We've got 4 kids and a dog so I wanted to go on the larger side for length and motor size.
The builder beefed up the tow eyelet for me and added extra flotation below deck. It's going to make a pretty sweet adventure machine for us. I love the color too.
I need to get a cover made so we can keep as much water as possible out while it tags along the way.
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05-11-2018, 11:00 PM
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Way nice! The color is perfect for the boat.
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05-11-2018, 11:06 PM
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Way too much power ... and engine weight.
The Panga is a narrow boat and this one will only be a tad larger than a 14’ al john boat. They go w 5hp. I’d be thinking of a 9.8 - 15hp. A 15hp two stroke would be perfect weight and power.
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05-11-2018, 11:12 PM
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Thanks Eric. To each his own my friend. I want a skiff that will run. Not something that can't get out of it's own way. We had a Catalina 22 with a 9.9 Honda on it. That was a great fit for the ol' sail boat. But we're gonna zoom not put on this one.
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05-12-2018, 06:56 AM
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Looking forward to seeing the finished product, Given the lengthwise seating, I take it rails are planned? Tiller steering or console? Pangas are a great hull form. I also take it he is installing cleats and eyes designed to facilitate towing it behind the mothership? A big soft rub rail or string of fenders?
Thanks for sharing!
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05-12-2018, 07:29 AM
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Greetings,
Mr. PH. What is the weight of the boat?
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05-12-2018, 08:56 AM
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Great looking boat. You and the boys are going to have so much fun and make so many memories in that.
Will be interested to read more on this in the future. Please do keep us appraised on the new Panga.
Cheers
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05-12-2018, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PerryH
Thanks Eric. To each his own my friend. I want a skiff that will run. Not something that can't get out of it's own way. We had a Catalina 22 with a 9.9 Honda on it. That was a great fit for the ol' sail boat. But we're gonna zoom not put on this one.
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Perry,
Well if you want to go fast and support a heavy engine on the transom it’s a matter of stern width. I think that’s how ratings re OB power maximums are arrived at.
IMO a more typical wider stern boat would be more suitable for bigger engines and speed. But perhaps your “Panga” is not a typical 6-1+ (length to beam ratio) Panga. What’s it’s beam aft?
Confession ...
But I probably shouldn’t be talking as I’ve been known to run an 18’ freight canoe w a eight hp Yamaha at 12 to 14 knots. Rated for 3hp. Transom only about 12”
wide. At speed one needs to be very careful turning .. as in no quick movements. I consider this a stunt though.
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05-12-2018, 02:32 PM
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You will not be able to run but so fast with the boat. If its anywhere close to the bigger Pangas, the bottom is narrower than most skiff of similar size. So all you will be doing is adding weight, unless the 30 hp is the same engine, just tooled differently. I would place a power trim and tilt in the mix, which also will add weight from your manual assist trim features. on most engines.
But you can surely shift some weight to compensate for a smaller engine. one you are on plane, then its just a matter of how much beating and water over the sides that you are willing to deal with too. It is afterall a much smaller boat that also will shrink a bit more when you put it in the big pond. And you will only have so much freeboard when you load it up as you suggest.
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05-12-2018, 06:48 PM
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Great boat my brother in law has the Panga LX 14 with a 25 on it runs great but at times could use a little more power ( maybe 5 horse more). I think what a lot of people do not understand is they handle so different then a standard hull. I would be very comfortable with your engine choice or even another 5.
Please share more pics as they come along
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05-12-2018, 07:20 PM
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Seeing the pics of the Panga I`m immediately reminded of the boats used, usually by the locals,in the islands of places like Fiji, Vanuatu and New Caledonia. They seem to be the standard for transport,fishing, etc,appear seaworthy,with a good turn of speed. A good dinghy choice.
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05-12-2018, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Seeing the pics of the Panga I`m immediately reminded of the boats used, usually by the locals,in the islands of places like Fiji, Vanuatu and New Caledonia. They seem to be the standard for transport,fishing, etc,appear seaworthy,with a good turn of speed. A good dinghy choice.
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I agree.. We have had business and property in Panama for 22 years Bocas del Toro from 10-35 foot for many years they are all Panga design
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05-13-2018, 07:51 AM
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A 40hp has been ideal for my 13' foot Whaler; I don't think a 30 on that Panga hull is over powered one bit, especially with a crowd on board.
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05-14-2018, 08:30 AM
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Thanks for the input everybody. I’ll keep the pics and info coming as the project moves along.
RT, I don’t know the weight.
Eric, I don‘t know the beam aft.
I’ll find out and let you know.
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06-18-2018, 07:27 PM
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06-18-2018, 07:39 PM
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awesome. looks great!
what are your thoughts on that 40hp? enough power? too much?
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06-18-2018, 07:58 PM
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Beautiful panga. The smiles on the kids faces is conformation it was a great idea.
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06-18-2018, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
A 40hp has been ideal for my 13' foot Whaler; I don't think a 30 on that Panga hull is over powered one bit, especially with a crowd on board.
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George,
It mostly depends on the beam at the transom. That’s how outboards are rated for max power.
Besides it’s not a matter of how much power one can clamp on, it’s a matter of how much power provides good performance with “X” amount of weight. Life isn’t a contest to see who can apply the biggest engine to the smallest boat.
A friend of mine put a 20hp Honda on a light 14’ Lund. I was think’in a 30hp but the twenty worked very well for him. And his transom was almost certianly wider than the Panga shown.
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