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11-09-2020, 06:15 AM
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Thanks everyone. I'm anxiously awaiting more pictures, video, and drone footage, all of which are supposedly coming.
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11-09-2020, 06:52 AM
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City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Originally Posted by twistedtree
I actually don't think either were factors. The original schedules reflected normal build times, and Taiwan has kept their country virtually Covid-free. I think it was really a text book example of how a management problem can poison a company.
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I just returned from a long overdue trip from Florida to Ensenada (5500 mile round trip drive) to view Weebles. Refit is running 12 months late, partially due to Covid shut down, but mostly due to awful project management. Granted, fraction of the scale of TTs project, but end effect is the same as the hiccups he experienced.
There is a big difference between going into a yard to have a couple things done, even large items such as a repower versus have a major refit (more accurately a restoration in my case) where there are multiple dependencies. Simple sequencing of tasks is often important.
Best to Tanglewood
Peter
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11-09-2020, 11:39 AM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by mvweebles
I just returned from a long overdue trip from Florida to Ensenada (5500 mile round trip drive) to view Weebles. Refit is running 12 months late, partially due to Covid shut down, but mostly due to awful project management. Granted, fraction of the scale of TTs project, but end effect is the same as the hiccups he experienced.
There is a big difference between going into a yard to have a couple things done, even large items such as a repower versus have a major refit (more accurately a restoration in my case) where there are multiple dependencies. Simple sequencing of tasks is often important.
Best to Tanglewood
Peter
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One of the top home builders in my home town averaged taking between 2 and 3 years on new builds but continued to quote 12 months. My parents home was started when our neighbor's home was nearly completed. My parents had a lower cost builder, neighbors had the prestigious one. Our house slightly larger than theirs. Ours was completely in four months. Theirs took 24.
The builder retained a great reputation until they built a 8000 sq ft home with incredible hardwood floors, but left it open and without climate control for months after the floors were installed. Major litigation as the cost to replace the floors was about $75,000. Yes, more than double the original cost of them as removal was more than installation.
These variations and mismanagement examples are definitely not limited to boats.
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11-09-2020, 06:52 PM
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#204
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Senior Member
City: Tsawwassen BC
Vessel Name: Tolly Roger
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34 SC
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 115
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11-09-2020, 07:08 PM
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#205
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City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Cool, I guess. I don't do instagram.
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11-10-2020, 09:47 AM
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#206
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Senior Member
City: Narragansett Bay
Vessel Name: EPIC
Vessel Model: 43' Ocean Super Sport
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 182
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Originally Posted by twistedtree
Cool, I guess. I don't do instagram.
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Yeah, they posted it on Facebook too. You're famous. Time to do a Youtube channel ;-)
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11-10-2020, 03:49 PM
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City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Mabuhay
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Whoa, are those built in boarding steps on the bow?
Can't wait to see this beauty at our home port - we'll be the ones ogling from a distance. Congratulations!
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11-10-2020, 04:33 PM
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#208
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City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by w8n4sun
Whoa, are those built in boarding steps on the bow?
Can't wait to see this beauty at our home port - we'll be the ones ogling from a distance. Congratulations! 
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Yes, boarding steps. We will see how they work. Fingers crossed.
And don’t keep your distance, at least up to 6’. Stop on by if you like.
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11-10-2020, 05:41 PM
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City: Walkabout Creek
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Ta Shing posted this video of the launch
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11-10-2020, 05:57 PM
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City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Boy they have power to close city streets like that. Wonderful to see them use the cradle not slings. The gel coat is untouched. Magnificent vessel.
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11-10-2020, 06:14 PM
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Originally Posted by Hippocampus
Boy they have power to close city streets like that. Wonderful to see them use the cradle not slings. The gel coat is untouched. Magnificent vessel.
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The boat lives in that cradle from the day it pops out of the mold, until now. But the same cradle gets hauled to the shipping port, and used once again on the deck of the transport ship, now identified as BBC Ruby. When the boat reaches it's final destination, it is launched, and the cradle is scrapped.
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11-10-2020, 06:17 PM
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#212
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Not only do they run down the streets, they relocate some number of utility lines to make way. And they do this every time a boat launches. But it's no big deal, and they just get it done.
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11-10-2020, 06:25 PM
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City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
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Congrats TT, that is an amazing vessel.
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11-10-2020, 07:33 PM
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#214
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Senior Member
City: Texas
Vessel Name: Dreams
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3988
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 102
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Wow! Congratulations.
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Originally Posted by twistedtree
Ta Shing posted this video of the launch
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11-11-2020, 10:31 AM
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#215
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City: Livingston
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
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You have done yourself well Mr. Hayden. Congratulations and best wishes.
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11-11-2020, 10:50 AM
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#216
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City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
Ta Shing posted this video of the launch
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Although I marvel at the completion (almost) of your project but I'm flabbergasted at the yard being so far from the water for launching! What am i missing?
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11-11-2020, 03:31 PM
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Codger2
Although I marvel at the completion (almost) of your project but I'm flabbergasted at the yard being so far from the water for launching! What am i missing? 
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It's not what you would expect, is it? I honestly don't know how common or uncommon this sort of thing is. But when you consider that they launch a boat at most every 3 months, it's not such a huge thing. Ta Shing actually has two yards/facilities a few blocks from each other.
What I think would be huge for them would be a test tank, but there just isn't space. South Coast, Nordhavn's other yard in Xaimen China, has a gargantuan travel lift and test tank. Then the travel lift can load the boat on a barge to take to it's shipping point. But the barge dock runs dry so it can only be loaded at high tide.
Maybe Steve D'Antonio will chime in since he has been to most all of the Asian yards.
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11-11-2020, 03:42 PM
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#218
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City: Malmö
Vessel Name: ABsolutely FABulous
Vessel Model: Greenline 33 Hybrid (2010)
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,222
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Beautiful! Congrats!!!
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Home port: Malmö, SWEDEN
Currently in: Sciacca (Sicily), ITALY
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11-11-2020, 03:48 PM
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#219
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
It's not what you would expect, is it? I honestly don't know how common or uncommon this sort of thing is. But when you consider that they launch a boat at most every 3 months, it's not such a huge thing. Ta Shing actually has two yards/facilities a few blocks from each other.
What I think would be huge for them would be a test tank, but there just isn't space. South Coast, Nordhavn's other yard in Xaimen China, has a gargantuan travel lift and test tank. Then the travel lift can load the boat on a barge to take to it's shipping point. But the barge dock runs dry so it can only be loaded at high tide.
Maybe Steve D'Antonio will chime in since he has been to most all of the Asian yards.
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It's not just China but many European builders as well, although most a little closer to the water. Just using roadways to take boats to the water isn't considered an issue for them. It's like a big moment, like a parade. Even some US builders have had the situation. Some didn't necessarily always handle it well, like Northern.
I think with great distance, it eliminates any tendency to short cut the process. You look at the cradle and equipment used by Nordhavn. They're not set up just to move the boat a few feet. They're set up to transport the boat by land and sea around the world.
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11-11-2020, 09:04 PM
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#220
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Guru
City: Las Vegas
Vessel Name: Pairadice
Vessel Model: Sold Selene 47
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,914
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Congrats Twisted!
Wish I had better wifi here in MX to watch the video. But she sure is a beautiful boat, please continue to share the experience.
Cheers
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