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03-19-2015, 10:57 PM
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City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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Originally Posted by sum escape
We will be leaving on the Great Loop this Fall.
A happy admiral makes for a good trip....)
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Why all the discussion? Isn't that the end of the matter?
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03-20-2015, 01:43 AM
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Senior Member
City: Florida USA and Ontario Canada
Vessel Name: anytime
Vessel Model: 2007 Chaparral 270 Signature LOA 29'
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 301
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Originally Posted by Xsbank
Couldn't you just mount them under your swim grid? No holes in the hull...
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This is what I did ... hate making more holes below the water line.
The primary reason for the lights is safety at night when stepping on and from swim platform onto unfamiliar dock. The light provides a nice shine around the swim platform and dock. Also, illuminates the running gear and the bottom under it ... useful in shallow waters.
The light is one of Lumitec under/above water lights. Most underwater lights expect to be under water for cooling, this one can be installed under or above. If you need its model number, let me know and I will dig it out.
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03-20-2015, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member
City: Cruising Florida and Bahamas
Vessel Name: TBD
Vessel Model: Tiara 53 Fly
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 215
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Thanks for all this input and spirited debate....
N4712, thanks for the recommendation, this was one brand I was considering.
HopCar, yes the lights at night in Bimini is what it is all about....
Drake, Amen....it does say it all.
Now it is just what brand and how many....
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03-20-2015, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
City: Green Turtle Cay/Western NC
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 180
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It's a sport fish thing. They can't afford to run the boats so they buy lights. Why anyone would put a hole in their hull for a useless light is beyond me.
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03-20-2015, 10:29 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15,902
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Greetings,
Mr, T. Useless in your opinion but, as mentioned, advantages to some. I'm considering surface mounts below the water similar to what I interpret Mr. O (N4712) to have. That being said, they may be redundant in the murky waters of the Miss' and associated waterways...
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03-20-2015, 12:24 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,215
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I'm normally a fairly practical guy but I'd install them if I got a set for Christmas. The light in our swimming pool creates a cool sort of atmosphere at night. Why not in the boat for a romantic midnight swim with the wife? The fish attraction and entertainment for kids is a bonus.
I'm in.
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03-20-2015, 12:34 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?
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Berthed in
Campbell River BC
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03-20-2015, 12:36 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?
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We scrub ours with our deck brush every so often they do collect a little crud.
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M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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03-20-2015, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
City: Panama City
Vessel Name: Irish Miss
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot Rum Runner Classic
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
I'm normally a fairly practical guy but I'd install them if I got a set for Christmas. The light in our swimming pool creates a cool sort of atmosphere at night. Why not in the boat for a romantic midnight swim with the wife? The fish attraction and entertainment for kids is a bonus.
I'm in.
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I'm in too. The midnight swim sounds nice, depending on the type of fish it attracts! 
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03-20-2015, 02:58 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Anacortes, WA
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 70
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Would there be any interest in an underwater LED lighting system that did not require a hole to be drilled in the hull? If so, I have posted information in the Commercial Market section.
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03-20-2015, 03:35 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?
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Some of them come with a coating on the lenses that make it easy to wipe of any growth. You can also put ceramic clear coat on them to make them easy to keep clean.
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03-20-2015, 03:39 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OkSkipper
Would there be any interest in an underwater LED lighting system that did not require a hole to be drilled in the hull? If so, I have posted information in the Commercial Market section.
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How bright would they be? How many LEDs per light fixture?
Since they would be induction does that raise any stay current issues?
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03-20-2015, 04:17 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Anacortes, WA
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 70
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I will find out how many lumens they put out. I can tell you that you can't look at them as they are blinding.
The inventor tells me that stray current is not an issue.
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03-20-2015, 05:33 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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I doubt there are many boat owners who care about this, but there was an article in National Geographic a few years ago about the effect of stray light on various forms of life including humans, birds and sea life, particularly fish in the case of the sea life.
With regards to sea life, the article said that light at night has the same effect as it does on birds: it is very disorienting and disturbs their life patterns. The article specifically mentioned the underwater lights used on many yachts as an example.
While we have never had a reason to think about installing underwater lighting on our boat, we wouldn't for this reason alone.
Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone's interested.....
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04-01-2015, 07:42 AM
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Senior Member
City: Cruising Florida and Bahamas
Vessel Name: TBD
Vessel Model: Tiara 53 Fly
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 215
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I ordered blue Sea Blaze X (thanks N4712 for the tip...checked them out on other forums and they are quite popular) and will have them installed prior to May 1 launch. Once we get to some clear water I'll post some pics and commentary of initial thoughts.
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05-13-2015, 12:49 PM
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Member
City: Indianapolis
Vessel Name: currently looking
Vessel Model: InvisiShip
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 19
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Loop Lights... Yes...
Good Luck on the Great Loop... Pls keep us wannabes posted....
I've been doing research on this subject lately from a marine science/fresh seafood stand point... LEDs to attract specific seafood throughout the Great Loop journey...LEDs to create a nocturnal aquarium around the hull... and LEDS for creating cool, aquatic lighting for aesthetics (and admiral)...
Go for it but limit your through-hull activity as much as possible (swim platform idea seems great)!!! SO, for light color, here is my strategy...
Blue - for best dockside aesthetics and maximum depth penetration
Green - for maximum shrimp, plankton, squid, bait fish and sport fish attraction
white - for best overall light intensity and broad-spectrum critter attraction
UV light? - for specialized fish attraction and viewing... and for that funky, 1960-70ish party affect... (glowing fish teeth must look pretty wacky, man...!?!)
Sorry... a little off question but think of all the fun diversions and joy these lights will bring to your Great Loop journey... Godspeed and fair winds...
ps. green lights tend to reduce sediment reflection so they are better in turbid, muddy waters...
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05-13-2015, 01:25 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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Even though they are underwater, won't the lights attract bugs also?
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05-13-2015, 01:41 PM
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Senior Member
City: Cruising Florida and Bahamas
Vessel Name: TBD
Vessel Model: Tiara 53 Fly
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 215
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[QUOTE=indy;332753]Good Luck on the Great Loop... Pls keep us wannabes posted....
Here is a recent update to our blog with a little on the Great Loop and a pic of the Lumitec Sea Blaze X blue lights installed. Still need to get into some clear water to take a night picture...
Home recovering from shoulder surgery currently, but still planning a late Aug/ early Sept departure on the Loop.
Sum Escape
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05-13-2015, 05:21 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
Even though they are underwater, won't the lights attract bugs also?
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Maybe, but since the bugs will fly to the light source, that will take them straight into the water and thereby increase the fish attracting effectiveness.
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05-13-2015, 08:09 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,625
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Underwater lights on a GB? Seriously?
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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