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Old 06-14-2010, 07:55 AM   #1
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New to Grand Banks and in fact new to Trawlers. Wondering about the effectivness of the Stay Sail. Worth raising underway to help prevent yaw or watse of time? Any opinons, comments, instruction will great greatlt appreciated.
Vessel is a 49' Grand Banks, I guess you folks refer to them as "woodies".

Also, getting rid of lot's of bad wood in the main cabin head. I was told I would be better off recovering with a vinyl material. Any thoughts on this?
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:59 AM   #2
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New to Grand Banks and in fact new to Trawlers. Wondering about the effectivness of the Stay Sail. Worth raising underway to help prevent yaw or watse of time? Any opinons, comments, instruction will great greatlt appreciated.
I appreciate this is resurrecting a very old thread but I am interested to know the effectiveness of the stay sail in different sea states.
Does it make any difference?
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:23 AM   #3
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GBNI and Sunexec, you have the mast and boom to launch and retrieve the small boat so, if you put up a steady sail everyone will think you are cool.
Based upon previous discussions here, the conclusion was, "maybe a little bit when at anchor." The steady sail was never designed to act as a 'get home', it is a 'flat sail' but, if the wind is just right, "maybe" it will get you closer to land and within a 'tow boat'?? Better than doing nothing.
Per using the sail while under way on the main engine? I do not recall anyone bragging about the effectiveness of the sail to reduce the roll. Basically too small.
So, we have nailed it down to 2 'maybe'.
One additions recommended was, adding an electric motor to launch and retrieve the small boat.
I hope that helps.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:42 AM   #4
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People have mixed results.

Generally the steadying sail on our trawlers is too small to work in all but some conditions. Probably why the mixed results.

A properly designed and used steadying sail will be a lousy sail for propulsion as they are cut flat and always sheetfed in all the way. If not, they will do little for roll.

They are for reducing roll, not yaw. Even then they will slow a snap roll a tad , even if they can't eliminate it.
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At least staysails can be pretty! My sails provide some propulsion and stability effect.
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At least staysails can be pretty! My sails provide some propulsion and stability effect.
Yes, but yours are not the typical staysail.
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"A staysail ("stays'l") is a fore-and-aft rigged sail whose luff can be affixed to a stay running forward (and most often but not always downwards) from a mast to the deck, the bowsprit, or to another mast (the mast is item 13 in the illustration right)."

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I would expect a beam of wind and waves would show best value from stays'l to reduce roll.
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This question was asked of a cruising family on a GB42 that was exploring the Caribbean. They thought it was helpful, see YouTube video comments for their response. They claim value, so maybe it takes being in the open ocean before the value shows up.

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At least staysails can be pretty! My sails provide some propulsion and stability effect.
are both your sails 'loose foot'?
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