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11-11-2020, 09:57 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Previous owner GB 42 Classic
Vessel Model: Currently running a 23' CC
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 207
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Legge Door Locks
1990 42 Classic. Legge lockset is acting up. The only info in the owner's manual is the template for installation. Not having any luck finding an installation guide or parts diagram. Issue is I have the inside plate and handle off. It appears the bolt/keyway set should now pull through releasing the face plate on the door edge. But it won't pull through. I feel like I'm missing something simple, as I've installed residential sets a dozen times and they appear similar to this. The face plate on the exterior of the door is solidly attached (glue/caulk?) and I'm wondering if it needs to come off?
It seems the bolt is stuck on something inside the door, not the plate.
Anyone had luck getting past this point?
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Jan & Lee
Beaufort, NC
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11-11-2020, 10:26 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Try WD40 before taking it apart
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11-11-2020, 05:51 PM
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Guru
City: Montgomery
Vessel Name: Choices
Vessel Model: 36 Grand Banks Europa
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 823
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Check my blog, grandbankschoices. I took mine apart and polished, maybe pics can help.
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36 Grand Banks Europa
Montgomery, TX
Blog: "grandbankschoices"
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11-13-2020, 12:16 PM
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Newbie
City: Monza
Vessel Name: Bellamia
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 cl
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 2
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Look at the attached drawings and instructions, perhaps they can be useful to you.
Legge Lock 1.PDF
Legge Lock 2.PDF
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11-13-2020, 05:25 PM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Previous owner GB 42 Classic
Vessel Model: Currently running a 23' CC
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 207
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Thanks Navi53. Exactly what I needed.
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Jan & Lee
Beaufort, NC
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11-14-2020, 07:02 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navi53
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That was a useful 1st post, welcome to the forum
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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05-03-2022, 06:40 AM
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Member
City: Essex, CT
Vessel Name: Aqualund
Vessel Model: 42 Grand Banks Classic
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 18
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Has anyone found replacement for the original mortice lockset?
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05-06-2022, 10:54 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Aix en Provence
Vessel Name: Croix du Sud
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Europa # 842
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 35
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Hi
Should your need be on the side door have a look at :
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/brands/legge-27.aspx
Found them while looking for a replacement saloon aft sliding door (what the have not ...)
Any suggestion welcome
All the best
Jean L
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05-17-2022, 08:03 PM
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Newbie
City: Larchmont, New York
Vessel Name: Running Wild
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 4
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Re: help extracting legge lock cylinder
I am trying to remove the door lock cylinder so I can get keys made.
I've reviewed this thread but can't seem to get the cylinder to remove.
Any advice or tips?
thanks! -Doug
Quote:
Originally Posted by Navi53
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05-20-2022, 08:10 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Aix en Provence
Vessel Name: Croix du Sud
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Europa # 842
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 35
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Legge lock
Hi Doug
From my GB instruction Book :
«To remove cylinder from lock case :
Unscrew the cylinder retaining screw.
Remove the key from the cylinder.
Depress the small plunger in the slot underneath the thumbturn , turn the thumbturn till the two gears can be seen in line with the opening in the lock case, remove the cylinder from the thumbturn side.*»
Hope this helps
JeanL
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05-20-2022, 09:33 AM
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Newbie
City: Larchmont, New York
Vessel Name: Running Wild
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 4
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I have the instructions but I dont have a key for the lock, hence why I need to remove the cylinder to get it rekeyed.
I am going to try and use a lock pick to get it out that way.
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05-20-2022, 04:03 PM
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Member
City: SEATTLE
Vessel Model: 1967 GB 32
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 13
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07-10-2022, 09:36 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port charlotte
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 1982
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dougtorre
I have the instructions but I dont have a key for the lock, hence why I need to remove the cylinder to get it rekeyed.
I am going to try and use a lock pick to get it out that way.
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I could find no locksmith to rekey a legge cylinder lock! The can't be picked and the cylinders do not come apart to deal with the pins.
Curious if anyone has a hint,
I would like to have 2 used or new double cog type key alike would be nice.
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07-10-2022, 09:39 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port charlotte
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 1982
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 44
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Looking for 2 Legge cylinders with keys, new or used , need the one with double cogs
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07-10-2022, 09:49 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port charlotte
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 1982
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainydayfisher
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Curious what lock was original that you replaced ? If it was the Legge cylinder type with the double cogs would be interred in how the new covered the holes etc. and if all matched up will
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07-10-2022, 10:08 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Croix du Sud
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This link shows a normal tumbler style key which is what I have and also a skeleton key. Yes, you cannot pick a skeleton key, but an old school locksmith can make you a key. First you have to find a blank key that is correct for the lock.
Then the key sides have soot from flame, insert and turn side to side. Pull it out and start filing, repeat. Actually did that once back in the 80's while taking a lock picking course. 
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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07-10-2022, 10:36 PM
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Guru
City: Corpus Christi
Vessel Model: Willard Vega Horizon
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfm
I could find no locksmith to rekey a legge cylinder lock! The can't be picked and the cylinders do not come apart to deal with the pins.
Curious if anyone has a hint,
I would like to have 2 used or new double cog type key alike would be nice.
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You need to discover what series number of lock you have. With that series number a key can be cut. The cylinder as you discovered cannot be rekeyed but only replaced in order to have new keys.
For blanks see here...
https://ekeyblanks.com/Legge-Grand-B...nks-Ilco-62LG/
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07-10-2022, 11:06 PM
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Guru
City: Corpus Christi
Vessel Model: Willard Vega Horizon
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HTurner
You need to discover what series number of lock you have. With that series number a key can be cut. The cylinder as you discovered cannot be rekeyed but only replaced in order to have new keys.
For blanks see here...
https://ekeyblanks.com/Legge-Grand-B...nks-Ilco-62LG/ |
I should also add that somewhere within the lock your series number should be inscribed. With that number, keys can be made.
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07-10-2022, 11:56 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 20,289
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My Formula didn’t have cabin keys when I bought it. Formula gave me the manufacturer info and I had to take the key code off the lock and they made keys for me. Quite easy.
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07-11-2022, 05:51 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Port charlotte
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 1982
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo-Valley
This link shows a normal tumbler style key which is what I have and also a skeleton key. Yes, you cannot pick a skeleton key, but an old school locksmith can make you a key. First you have to find a blank key that is correct for the lock.
Then the key sides have soot from flame, insert and turn side to side. Pull it out and start filing, repeat. Actually did that once back in the 80's while taking a lock picking course. |
I have reg key also. The cylinder won’t come out without a key. Can’t be picked to turn it to do it. The proper key blank is an welcome available on line. Not near the but will post # and website. Exact fit then if have key machine can copy. Hard to find blank.
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