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01-18-2014, 07:08 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Morehead City, NC
Vessel Name: Grande Jete`
Vessel Model: 1990 Grand Banks 46 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 36
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RickB,
I enjoy reading your responses and replies, due to your extensive technical knowledge. I did read the article you posted, and as most news articles do, it left a lot of details out, as to what kind of welding he was doing, where on the tanks, how much fuel was in the tank, etc. etc. If someone were stick welding on a tank below a fuel level, then I could certainly understand how it could get hot enough to explode.
So, from that, my opinion here is that we are talking about apples and oranges.
Thanks,
Chuck
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01-19-2014, 08:41 AM
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,804
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Just passing along the other side of the story. Most fuel tank fires and explosions occur because people thought there was no risk involved in whatever they were doing. Call it due diligence.
Having done a few jobs like that I am fond of using CO2 inerting via dry ice or a bottle until the tank has been opened enough to ventilate fully.
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01-26-2014, 11:09 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Morehead City, NC
Vessel Name: Grande Jete`
Vessel Model: 1990 Grand Banks 46 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 36
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Rick,
The dry ice is a very good idea. I have used that procedure in a very different non boating situation. My fuel tank had been cleaned and well ventilated for over two weeks before I started sawing on it, so I felt the risk of fire was very minimal in my situation. I hope that any person who would attempt a DIY project of this magnitude would of course do their due diligence also.
Thanks,
Chuck
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01-27-2014, 12:30 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12,677
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Seapilot, some years ago, at Alice Springs in remote central Australia, half way through a 16000km car rally, we had a cracked leaking auxiliary gasoline tank successfully welded. We did remove it from the car first. Only one guy would touch it, we were surprised he did, staying well clear while he welded.You should be ok,with planning.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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04-09-2014, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member
City: Anchor Pointe, Ohio
Vessel Name: Sea Moose
Vessel Model: 1976 34' D/C Taiwanese Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 341
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I just cut my tanks out... At times the blades on the saws-all got so hot they started smoking, so I'd stop for a minute and keep cutting. Used a sledgehammer to break the welds holding the baffles on.
Take a cup of diesel outside and put a match in it and see what happens.....
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04-11-2014, 04:20 AM
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Newbie
City: Salzbergen
Vessel Model: 1975 Grand Banks42 Classic
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 3
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Sea Moose
In the meantime I finished removing the port dieseltank.
I did it the way seaisleman reported in this forum.
When the sawblade became hot I dipped it in cold water and
could continue sawing immediately.
Best Regards
Seapilot
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04-11-2014, 05:36 AM
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Guru
City: East Coast, Australia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 935
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To those who have cut out their old iron tanks: how did you get your new tanks in? In parts, that were then welded within the engine room....or?
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04-11-2014, 07:41 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,402
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I went with smaller (many use multiple) tanks so they slid right in with just barely moving one vertical deck support.
Because the new tank bottoms are flat versus shaped like the hull...they sit up on platforms now.
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04-11-2014, 08:20 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Akureyri
Vessel Name: Ozimo IV
Vessel Model: 18m Gulet
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 83
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquabelle
To those who have cut out their old iron tanks: how did you get your new tanks in? In parts, that were then welded within the engine room....or?
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We cut the top of the deck off
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M/V Ozimo IV
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