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04-12-2021, 04:36 PM
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City: Placida
Vessel Name: Sea Gypsy
Vessel Model: 42 Grand Banks Classic
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Grand Banks 42 Classic Curtain Help
We recently purchased a 1981 Grand Banks 42 that needs some love. We are at present doing a LOT of interior work. Replacing all the windows that were delaminated and sealed shut, new headliner, stripping all the interior teak , etc., etc., etc. My issue right now is the curtains. The previous owner had removed the curtains and tracks to install blinds. I want to go back to the Grand Banks
curtains but I'm at a standstill as I cannot figure out how they are done. If I could get a couple of pictures I could figure it out. I assume they are on a low profile track mounted under the valance. BUT....are the curtains pleated and hung on hooks, hung on tape ?? I really need this info to move ahead. The only boat curtain info I can find on the internet is for sailboats. I love the look of the tied back pleated drapes...they are part of what the older Grand Banks are.....Classic.
Jann
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04-12-2021, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tie A Knot
We recently purchased a 1981 Grand Banks 42 that needs some love. We are at present doing a LOT of interior work. Replacing all the windows that were delaminated and sealed shut, new headliner, stripping all the interior teak , etc., etc., etc. My issue right now is the curtains. The previous owner had removed the curtains and tracks to install blinds. I want to go back to the Grand Banks
curtains but I'm at a standstill as I cannot figure out how they are done. If I could get a couple of pictures I could figure it out. I assume they are on a low profile track mounted under the valance. BUT....are the curtains pleated and hung on hooks, hung on tape ?? I really need this info to move ahead. The only boat curtain info I can find on the internet is for sailboats. I love the look of the tied back pleated drapes...they are part of what the older Grand Banks are.....Classic.
Jann
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My GB 42 is a Motor Yacht but same curtains as on 42 Classic & Europa.
Indeed they are pleated and hung on hooks on a low profile aluminum track.
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04-12-2021, 05:30 PM
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Personally we like mini blinds, but if you want to make, or have made, curtains then Sailrite has a lot of mounting equipment.
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04-12-2021, 06:18 PM
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City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
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I’ve attached a quick sketch of our 1986 GB Classic curtain hanging method.
A “mushroom” plastic piece is sewn into the top of each pleat (see Pilou’s curtains above). Then the curtain and mushroom hangers are inserted into the track behind the valances.
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04-12-2021, 10:10 PM
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Here is our curtains upside down and I do not know why
Attachment 116506
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04-13-2021, 03:14 PM
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City: Placida
Vessel Name: Sea Gypsy
Vessel Model: 42 Grand Banks Classic
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Thanks to all the replies. Steve your attachment will not open . That's what I am looking for a picture of how they are attached. I did look on Sailrite and their eye with hook is not for a pleat as far as I can tell. We had mini blinds on our last boat and I was not a fan, besides I want the "Grand Banks look". The sketch Ray sent was VERY helpful but I have never seen that kind of "mushroom" attachment for curtains. I am wondering if I could just stitch the eyes that are made to slide in the track to the curtain pleat.
Another question is are your curtains made of a lightweight material and lined ?
Thanks so much for all the input it is much appreciated.
Jann
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04-13-2021, 03:31 PM
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To illustrate the great sketch from Ray.
Enlarge the pic where a green arrow is pointing. It’s the same "system" on the top track.
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04-13-2021, 03:39 PM
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Here is what I have
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04-13-2021, 04:05 PM
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City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tie A Knot
Thanks to all the replies. Steve your attachment will not open . That's what I am looking for a picture of how they are attached. I did look on Sailrite and their eye with hook is not for a pleat as far as I can tell. We had mini blinds on our last boat and I was not a fan, besides I want the "Grand Banks look". The sketch Ray sent was VERY helpful but I have never seen that kind of "mushroom" attachment for curtains. I am wondering if I could just stitch the eyes that are made to slide in the track to the curtain pleat.
Another question is are your curtains made of a lightweight material and lined ?
Thanks so much for all the input it is much appreciated.
Jann
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I’ve seen some that are lined. However, ours are just a woven fabric that is similar to the fabric on our settee.
Curtains come and go in our harsh environment. We are close to replacing our curtains. This time we may consider Sunbrella-brand material. Don’t plan to add a liner. I’ll let you know how it holds up in a few years!
Pilou, good idea adding a bottom track.
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04-13-2021, 04:53 PM
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Jann,
I've found many "oddball" curtain tracks and carriers/glides (what they call the part you attach to the curtain) at www.curtain-tracks.com
Some of them can also be found at Sailrite and other places, but I have found some at curtain-tracks that I could not find elsewhere. They also typically have a number of photos of each one, and often one of the photos includes measurements.
No affiliation other than finding oddball glides there.
Frosty
PS: Although I typically like mini-blinds, I am with you when it comes to the GB curtains. They just seem to suit it so well.
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04-13-2021, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
Pilou, good idea adding a bottom track.
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Thanks Ray. The two rear windows of the salon have bottom track encased into the teak wood.
All windows have external double covers : batyline + sunbrella, with double snap.
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04-13-2021, 06:24 PM
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City: Placida
Vessel Name: Sea Gypsy
Vessel Model: 42 Grand Banks Classic
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Great information from everyone. The more input the easier it becomes! Thanks again. Jann
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04-13-2021, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
Pilou, good idea adding a bottom track.
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I think the reason Pilou has the bottom track stock and yours (probably?) doesn't is whether those aft saloon windows slope or are vertical. (Hers slope.)
I'm more familiar with the 36-footer, but I have noticed that when the after saloon windows were changed to sloped in 1988 (1987 and older were vertical), the curtains were then secured at the bottom (which makes sense as otherwise they would flop inward at the bottom).
Not sure how the 42 evolved, but if yours don't have bottom tracks, maybe your aft windows are vertical like the pre-1988 36's are?
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04-13-2021, 07:01 PM
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City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
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Well this is an interesting idea. Pilou, do you leave the the see thru part on all year and cover with sunbrella when not in use to protect from weather?
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04-14-2021, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
I think the reason Pilou has the bottom track stock and yours (probably?) doesn't is whether those aft saloon windows slope or are vertical. (Hers slope.)
I'm more familiar with the 36-footer, but I have noticed that when the after saloon windows were changed to sloped in 1988 (1987 and older were vertical), the curtains were then secured at the bottom (which makes sense as otherwise they would flop inward at the bottom).
Not sure how the 42 evolved, but if yours don't have bottom tracks, maybe your aft windows are vertical like the pre-1988 36's are?
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Hi Frosty
Yes you are right, my 2 aft saloon windows slope which was the reason why there are bottom tracks.
Problem was those curtains of the 2 aft windows didn’t have tieback. So, I asked a hupholsterer to cut one pleat of a curtain from which he made 3 tiebacks to match with curtains and other tiebacks, with snaps. 2 for the starboard aft saloon window (2 curtains), 1 for the port (1 curtain).
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04-14-2021, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo-Valley
Well this is an interesting idea. Pilou, do you leave the the see thru part on all year and cover with sunbrella when not in use to protect from weather?
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Hi Steve
Thank you. Yes indeed I leave the batyline see-through covers all the year long except when cruising long distance at night from the inside helm for better visibility.
These batyline "dim" the light just perfect, well let see through from inside and mask the inside of the boat from outside. Also they perfectly prevent mosquitoes and bugs to come in when windows are open.
They cover and protect as well the external frames of the windows.
Indeed I cover with sunbrella to protect from the weather when not in use or sometimes as well at the anchor when too much sunshine.
White sunbrella for the saloon windows to let the daylight in, marine blue to obscur the 14 windows of the 3 cabins for long sleepers
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04-14-2021, 10:19 AM
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City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
I think the reason Pilou has the bottom track stock and yours (probably?) doesn't is whether those aft saloon windows slope or are vertical. (Hers slope.)
I'm more familiar with the 36-footer, but I have noticed that when the after saloon windows were changed to sloped in 1988 (1987 and older were vertical), the curtains were then secured at the bottom (which makes sense as otherwise they would flop inward at the bottom).
Not sure how the 42 evolved, but if yours don't have bottom tracks, maybe your aft windows are vertical like the pre-1988 36's are?
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My 1986 GB42 has vertical aft windows. Did the “Classic” windows slope after a certain year or is it the design of the “Motor Yacht”, such as Pilou’s?
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04-14-2021, 10:23 AM
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City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
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Phifertex is the brand here. Our boat has the white covers which we put on and take off. I will keep this sunbrella add on in mind. Yes it keeps the bugs outside and cooler inside.
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04-14-2021, 04:21 PM
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Member
City: Placida
Vessel Name: Sea Gypsy
Vessel Model: 42 Grand Banks Classic
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Our 1981 GB 42 Classic does not have sloped windows so no bottom track needed. I am ordering tracks and slides from Curtain Tracks.com. Since we are on the subject is the Batyline the same as Phifertex Plus do you think? That's what we had on our Present trawler but we also had screens. If it keeps the bugs out with no screens I'll be for it. The boat now has regular Phifertex which I don't think will work to keep bugs out. This forum is such a great way to get information!
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04-14-2021, 08:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
My 1986 GB42 has vertical aft windows. Did the “Classic” windows slope after a certain year or is it the design of the “Motor Yacht”, such as Pilou’s?
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The 36 Classic began with the sloped windows when they enlarged it in 1988 (beam/length). I'm not as up on the 42, but didn't they do the same to it in 1991? If so, I bet that's when the sloped windows started
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