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11-09-2020, 01:08 PM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
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Dock line size, GB42?
Curious as to what other GB 42' owners use for dock line. 5/8" or 3/4"? I've had 3/4" but they do make double occupancy on a cleat a little bit of a pain. Time to replace these and wondering if I should take it down a notch.
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Hal
BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
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11-09-2020, 01:14 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
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I would use 5/8 and have a couple 3/4 for certain situations ( I often had a scrap piece of 1 inch or larger tow line from assistance towboat for high loading or high chafe situations....also used as a tow bridle if I needed to get towed)
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11-09-2020, 01:18 PM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
I would use 5/8 and have a couple 3/4 for certain situations ( I often had a scrap piece of 1 inch or larger tow line from assistance towboat for high loading or high chafe situations....also used as a tow bridle if I needed to get towed)
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Thanks, the lines I have are in pretty good shape so I would keep them as spares, storms. Just wasn't sure if the 5/8" was a good bet for day-in/day-out use.
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Hal
BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
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11-09-2020, 01:21 PM
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City: Brookline, NH
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I use 5/8" for docklines and am happy with that size.
Ken
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11-09-2020, 01:26 PM
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City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
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5/8 was used on my GB42 for mooring and on my one fiber anchor rode. Braided mooring on bow and stern on one side where prevalent winds tended to stretch the twisted lines a bit too much toward the lee side pilings and twisted for springs and others.
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FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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11-09-2020, 01:46 PM
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5/8” should be fine.
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11-09-2020, 02:20 PM
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I used 5/8ths with a couple 3/4ths on hand, one of which was our primary warping line with a hige loop formed with a bowline at one end.
That latter part was because once we were approaching a dock and the dock hand couldn't figure out how to get the small original spliced loop on our dock line over a pile. Said it didn't fit.
Duh! As wind was blowing us toward a row or pulpits/anchors that would have pilloried our port side in several places... And of course we needed to back down on that line RIGHT NOW!
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11-09-2020, 02:31 PM
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Hal, I’ve always used 5/8 double braid. Of course now it’ll blow 75 knots tonight...!
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11-09-2020, 04:50 PM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranger42c
I used 5/8ths with a couple 3/4ths on hand, one of which was our primary warping line with a hige loop formed with a bowline at one end.
That latter part was because once we were approaching a dock and the dock hand couldn't figure out how to get the small original spliced loop on our dock line over a pile. Said it didn't fit.
Duh! As wind was blowing us toward a row or pulpits/anchors that would have pilloried our port side in several places... And of course we needed to back down on that line RIGHT NOW!
-Chris
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Yes, them there pilings is tricky. Seem to come in all different sizes. Can't have enough varied size splice loops!
Thank's guys, pretty much what I figured. Still getting over the "previous owner did the loop, Bahamas, etc., so he must know something I don't" syndrome.
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11-09-2020, 04:54 PM
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Have you ever just pulled line through the spliced loop to form any sized loop you want?
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11-09-2020, 04:57 PM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Have you ever just pulled line through the spliced loop to form any sized loop you want?
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HUH? THAT's how it works?? Of course, I was kidding. I have had people on our boat that thought the same thing though. Hey, they don't know.....
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BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
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11-09-2020, 05:02 PM
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City: Carrabelle, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Have you ever just pulled line through the spliced loop to form any sized loop you want?
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That's what I do. I like that you can pull it tight around the piling and usually keep it from sliding all the way down, even if there are no hooks/cleats/spikes etc on the piling.
Once you get all tied up you can adjust it, retie or whatever.
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11-09-2020, 05:03 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
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Sorry, I hate underestimating fellow TFers, except the ones who prove it....
On my phone I tend to skim posts too fast and sometimes miss the pitch.
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11-09-2020, 05:06 PM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Sorry, I hate underestimating fellow TFers, except the ones who prove it....
On my phone I tend to skim posts too fast and sometimes miss the pitch.
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Actually, with all the madness going on, your post made my day!! Nice to smile.
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BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
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11-09-2020, 06:30 PM
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City: Solomons MD.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Have you ever just pulled line through the spliced loop to form any sized loop you want?
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This post needs pictures.....
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11-09-2020, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Myers, FL
Vessel Name: Hannah Jane
Vessel Model: 2000 Grand Banks 42 Classic
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5/8" braided are my regular lines. They work very well. I do use Chafe-Pro on all lines where they pass through hawse holes. My marina (Legacy Harbour) in Ft. Myers requires extra lines during hurricane season & I add 3/4" braided lines.
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11-10-2020, 01:19 AM
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City: Miami Florida
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Yes 5/8” should be fine.
On the subject of eye splice size, I never understood why the rope manufacturers put such small loops on dock lines. I always splice three foot eyes in my dock lines. They will drop over any piling I’ve ever encountered and you can still make a choke loop as described above.
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Retired from Hopkins-Carter Marine Supply
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11-10-2020, 05:25 AM
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City: Jupiter, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solly
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I had my wife take some pics while I was trying to make a loop last night. I was having trouble and it got real late so we gave up. I'm going to practice some today and try the pics again later. Maybe the spliced loop is supposed to be in my right hand, not my left, and the bitter end in my left? I think that was the problem.
Said it before and will say it again, them splicey loops is way tricky.
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BLACK EYED SUSAN
Grand Banks 42 Classic
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11-10-2020, 08:05 AM
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City: gulf coast
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I dont use splices just bowlines. That way I am ready for any situation with a loop sized as needed and either end of the line works every time. Additionally I can easily untie the loop it the next guy on the pole does not dip his lines.
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11-20-2020, 01:48 PM
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Member
City: Virginia Beach
Vessel Name: Seas The Day
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The size of the appropriate line is determined by the size of the cleat that you have. Multiply the length of the cleat by 1/16: 6” cleat = 3/8”. 8” cleat =.1/2”. 10” cleat = 5/8”. 12” cleat = 3/4”. This insures that you would not yank the cleat off the boat and that you have the ability to put two lines on the cleat.
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