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Old 11-20-2020, 03:33 PM   #21
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I had my wife take some pics while I was trying to make a loop last night. I was having trouble and it got real late so we gave up. I'm going to practice some today and try the pics again later. Maybe the spliced loop is supposed to be in my right hand, not my left, and the bitter end in my left? I think that was the problem.

Said it before and will say it again, them splicey loops is way tricky.
You donít need the bitter end. Just stick your hand through the spliced loop, grab the rope and pull it back through the loop. You now have a choke loop you can drop over the piling.
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Old 11-20-2020, 04:03 PM   #22
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Curious as to what other GB 42' owners use for dock line. 5/8" or 3/4"? I've had 3/4" but they do make double occupancy on a cleat a little bit of a pain. Time to replace these and wondering if I should take it down a notch.
5/8 should be fine for average conditions, but would not trust them in a decent blow.
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5/8 should be fine for average conditions, but would not trust them in a decent blow.

Whay do you consider a decent blow?


At around 10,000 lbs breaking strength, with rarely one line taking all the load, and most people doubling up lines where they would expect the worst pull....5/8 should b good up to hurricane strength with proper chafe gear.


As I posted in the dock line thread, once into hurricane conditions, the average tie up (unless in a real good hole) needs much more attention than most normal tie ups....and lines.
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5/8 3 strand or 8 plait will generally be around 10 - 11k lbs breaking strength. 5/8 double braid is stronger, around 15k lbs breaking strength. That should be plenty for a GB42 even in heavy weather if it's tied up well.
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Both sizes are useful

On our Permanent dock (which proved to be not permanent - Sally took the whole marina), I normally use 3/4" and leave them at the home dock for easy return.
When on the move we use 5/8" for easier handling and fastening to cleats, etc.

We have since sold our 42' GB and now have a 49' Krogen Express. Same size lines for the "new to us" Krogen although heavier than the GB.
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You donít need the bitter end. Just stick your hand through the spliced loop, grab the rope and pull it back through the loop. You now have a choke loop you can drop over the piling.
Oh sure Parks, the old "hand through the loop" trick. I went for it once and got my arm stuck just like the guy knew I would. I was joking about the whole bitter end through the loop thing. I should probably work on my jokes a little.

On my lines, I have a mix of 3/4" and 5/8". Will replace the 3/4" home dock lines with some additional 5/8" just for ease of tying up. When storms approach I double up lines and even triple up on a couple. I use as many 3/4"s as possible during these times.
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Or maybe if you need a large loop in a line, just tie a bowline the size you need?
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Or maybe if you need a large loop in a line, just tie a bowline the size you need?
Yep, that'll work too but I am looking at replacing my stay-at-home permanent docklines. Prefer chains and spliced thimbles since they never leave with us.
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My 42 GB Europa had 3/4” dock lines when I bought her, and have continued that practice. I am in Ventura Harbor, and occasionally easterly Santa Anna winds at 40-50 knots come barreling down the valley and give it a real go, and I’ve always never been concerned because of my lines.

Maybe bigger than necessary, but I’m used to 3/4” and careful shopping makes replacement not a problem.
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Have you ever just pulled line through the spliced loop to form any sized loop you want?
Sometimes the guy on the dock releasing your lines is a doofus and lets them go to early or can't get them off. I instruct the dock helper to just pull the line through and hand the end back to me where I will tie off on my boat. Then, I can let it go at the appropriate time and don't need a helper on the dock. Also, there's no chance someone will move your line when you're not around.
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