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Old 12-05-2012, 10:09 PM   #1
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Incredible video - fishing boats in rough sea - YouTube
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:33 PM   #2
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WOW - I watched that video bout a year ago - Again, WOW!!
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:38 PM   #3
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That's the same video I put in the mistakenly labeled Columbia River Bar thread the other week.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:51 AM   #5
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Wonderful link Mark.

Assuming those working trollers were from Oregon I see they have ground tackle just like the Alaskan boats.

I always like listening to GB.
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This troller is wider than it looks in the pic.

I've talked to him several times. Notice his extra heavy chain close to the anchor and that the bulk of his chain is much lighter/smaller but probably heavier than most of us would use.

Lots of these old wood fishing boats are well maintained and have lasted for a very long time. I'm guessing Rauma was built in the late 40s.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:25 AM   #7
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This troller is wider than it looks in the pic.

I've talked to him several times. Notice his extra heavy chain close to the anchor and that the bulk of his chain is much lighter/smaller but probably heavier than most of us would use.

Lots of these old wood fishing boats are well maintained and have lasted for a very long time. I'm guessing Rauma was built in the late 40s.
Eric: She was built in 1929.

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Data found in current database.Vessel Name:RAUMAUSCG Doc. No.:228211Vessel Service:COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSELIMO Number:*Trade Indicator:Coastwise Unrestricted, Fishery, RegistryCall Sign:WDA3659Hull Material:WOODHull Number:*Ship Builder:JOHN FLEMYear Built:1929
Length (ft.):35.7Hailing Port:SITKA AKHull Depth (ft.):4.9Owner:PATRICK TYNER
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CRAIG, AK 99921Hull Breadth (ft.):10.5Gross Tonnage:10Net Tonnage:6Documentation Issuance Date:June 30, 2004Documentation Expiration Date:July 31, 2013Previous Vessel Names:No Vessel Name Changes Previous Vessel Owners:PATRICK TYNER
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Holy cow Larry I hope he dosn't see this ... he may not like being stripped bare in public. I wouldn't mind but everybody's different about that sort of thing.
I am amazed how you can look up such personnel information. I was born long before computers an am behind the curve.

Let's see if you can find out how old this one is. Not a troller though.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:18 AM   #9
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Let's see if you can find out how old this one is. Not a troller though.


Vessel Name: MIDDLETON
Vessel Service: COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL
Ship Builder: JOHN VAN DER WEL
Year Built: 1923
Length (ft.): 48.4
Hull Depth (ft.): 8.3
Hull Breadth (ft.): 14.7
Gross Tonnage: 35
Net Tonnage: 24

Eric, All documented vessels are on web databases.
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Yes I suspected as much.
I see Middleton is old and she looks it. Her stern is more like an old sailing ship than a fish boat. Very narrow wheelhouse and judging from the curve of the stem near the WL she may look a lot like a sailboat underwater. 1923 ... Yup the old wood boats can last a long time if cared for.
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1923 huh? A lot to be said for the preservative qualities of cold SALT water.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:57 PM   #12
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1923 huh? A lot to be said for the preservative qualities of cold SALT water.
Except if it`s you and not the boat in it.
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I have heard Lloyds of London says the life of a wood boat is indefinate . Every piece can be replaced without losing the integrity of the boat . I owned a troller built in 1946 (Victoria BC) . Pacific Mutual Marine Insurance which was a co-op for commercial fisherman had stated this to me . Can't remember what they said about steel , aluminum and glass .
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I have heard Lloyds of London says the life of a wood boat is indefinate . Every piece can be replaced without losing the integrity of the boat . I owned a troller built in 1946 (Victoria BC) . Pacific Mutual Marine Insurance which was a co-op for commercial fisherman had stated this to me . Can't remember what they said about steel , aluminum and glass .
Unless it sinks in to deep water or crashes too hard on rocks or burns to waterline or explodes to smithereens or gets run over by a tanker, or, or...

Those are all definite possibilities!
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You guys do know that trollers and trawlers are two entirely different things, right?
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Art ,we used to say there are two types of skippers out there . Those that have hit the beach and those that haven't yet . We had far more claims from fire than any other cause . I was only talking about integrity of the vessel due to age , not everything else that could destroy a boat .
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Trollers use hooks for tuna , cod and salmon . Catch them one at a time vs dragging a net for ground fish and shrimp on a trawler . Then we have cruising trawlers . I posted as this this thread was discussing fishing boats .
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Wood boats are great...till they are not...then they are the least reliable of all the hull materials.


I personally hoisted more fisherman out of the water than I cared to as the wooden Eastern Rig Fishing Fleet on the East Coast slowly disappeared.


Not because wood is a bad thing...it just cant be neglected one tiny bit.
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Wood boats are great...till they are not...then they are the least reliable of all the hull materials.


I personally hoisted more fisherman out of the water than I cared to as the wooden Eastern Rig Fishing Fleet on the East Coast slowly disappeared.


Not because wood is a bad thing...it just cant be neglected one tiny bit.

Not true. Any hull material can suffer , from age, lack of good maintenance , and a poor skipper. Hull Material has very little to do with it.

Be that wood , steel, FRP, Aluminum, or rock.
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Not true. Any hull material can suffer , from age, lack of good maintenance , and a poor skipper. Hull Material has very little to do with it.

Be that wood , steel, FRP, Aluminum, or rock.
And this is based on?

Possibly the phase of the moon

Steel and wood must be maintained constantly.
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