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12-05-2012, 10:09 PM
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Guru
City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
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Trollers - the real ones
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12-05-2012, 10:33 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by refugio
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WOW - I watched that video bout a year ago - Again, WOW!!
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12-05-2012, 10:38 PM
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Scraping Paint
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That's the same video I put in the mistakenly labeled Columbia River Bar thread the other week.
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12-05-2012, 10:50 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
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Recreational trollers (and fishing ones too):
Troller Yachts Home Page
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12-06-2012, 09:51 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Wonderful link Mark.
Assuming those working trollers were from Oregon I see they have ground tackle just like the Alaskan boats.
I always like listening to GB.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-06-2012, 10:13 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
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This troller is wider than it looks in the pic.
I've talked to him several times. Notice his extra heavy chain close to the anchor and that the bulk of his chain is much lighter/smaller but probably heavier than most of us would use.
Lots of these old wood fishing boats are well maintained and have lasted for a very long time. I'm guessing Rauma was built in the late 40s.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-06-2012, 10:25 AM
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TF Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
This troller is wider than it looks in the pic.
I've talked to him several times. Notice his extra heavy chain close to the anchor and that the bulk of his chain is much lighter/smaller but probably heavier than most of us would use.
Lots of these old wood fishing boats are well maintained and have lasted for a very long time. I'm guessing Rauma was built in the late 40s.
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Eric: She was built in 1929.
Coast Guard Vessel Documentation
Data found in current database.Vessel Name:RAUMAUSCG Doc. No.:228211Vessel Service:COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSELIMO Number:*Trade Indicator:Coastwise Unrestricted, Fishery, RegistryCall Sign:WDA3659Hull Material:WOODHull Number:*Ship Builder:JOHN FLEMYear Built:1929
Length (ft.):35.7Hailing Port:SITKA AKHull Depth (ft.):4.9Owner:PATRICK TYNER
204 SPRUCE ST P.O. BOX 541
CRAIG, AK 99921Hull Breadth (ft.):10.5Gross Tonnage:10Net Tonnage:6Documentation Issuance Date:June 30, 2004Documentation Expiration Date:July 31, 2013Previous Vessel Names:No Vessel Name Changes Previous Vessel Owners:PATRICK TYNER
JOSEPH T SARGENT
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12-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Holy cow Larry I hope he dosn't see this ... he may not like being stripped bare in public. I wouldn't mind but everybody's different about that sort of thing.
I am amazed how you can look up such personnel information. I was born long before computers an am behind the curve.
Let's see if you can find out how old this one is. Not a troller though.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-06-2012, 11:18 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
Let's see if you can find out how old this one is. Not a troller though.
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Vessel Name: MIDDLETON
Vessel Service: COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL
Ship Builder: JOHN VAN DER WEL
Year Built: 1923
Length (ft.): 48.4
Hull Depth (ft.): 8.3
Hull Breadth (ft.): 14.7
Gross Tonnage: 35
Net Tonnage: 24
Eric, All documented vessels are on web databases.
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12-06-2012, 12:11 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
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Spy,
Yes I suspected as much.
I see Middleton is old and she looks it. Her stern is more like an old sailing ship than a fish boat. Very narrow wheelhouse and judging from the curve of the stem near the WL she may look a lot like a sailboat underwater. 1923 ... Yup the old wood boats can last a long time if cared for.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-06-2012, 12:24 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
1923 huh? A lot to be said for the preservative qualities of cold SALT water.
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12-06-2012, 06:57 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
1923 huh? A lot to be said for the preservative qualities of cold SALT water.
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Except if it`s you and not the boat in it.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-10-2015, 10:13 AM
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Member
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I have heard Lloyds of London says the life of a wood boat is indefinate . Every piece can be replaced without losing the integrity of the boat . I owned a troller built in 1946 (Victoria BC) . Pacific Mutual Marine Insurance which was a co-op for commercial fisherman had stated this to me . Can't remember what they said about steel , aluminum and glass .
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02-10-2015, 11:12 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by west coast troller
I have heard Lloyds of London says the life of a wood boat is indefinate . Every piece can be replaced without losing the integrity of the boat . I owned a troller built in 1946 (Victoria BC) . Pacific Mutual Marine Insurance which was a co-op for commercial fisherman had stated this to me . Can't remember what they said about steel , aluminum and glass .
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Unless it sinks in to deep water or crashes too hard on rocks or burns to waterline or explodes to smithereens or gets run over by a tanker, or, or...
Those are all definite possibilities!
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02-10-2015, 11:24 AM
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Scraping Paint
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You guys do know that trollers and trawlers are two entirely different things, right?
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02-10-2015, 11:34 AM
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Member
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Art ,we used to say there are two types of skippers out there . Those that have hit the beach and those that haven't yet . We had far more claims from fire than any other cause . I was only talking about integrity of the vessel due to age , not everything else that could destroy a boat .
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02-10-2015, 11:45 AM
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Member
City: Comox b c
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Trollers use hooks for tuna , cod and salmon . Catch them one at a time vs dragging a net for ground fish and shrimp on a trawler . Then we have cruising trawlers . I posted as this this thread was discussing fishing boats .
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02-10-2015, 12:09 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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Wood boats are great...till they are not...then they are the least reliable of all the hull materials.
I personally hoisted more fisherman out of the water than I cared to as the wooden Eastern Rig Fishing Fleet on the East Coast slowly disappeared.
Not because wood is a bad thing...it just cant be neglected one tiny bit.
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02-10-2015, 12:32 PM
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Guru
City: Richmond bc
Vessel Name: Invader no1
Vessel Model: Kishi Boat works
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Wood boats are great...till they are not...then they are the least reliable of all the hull materials.
I personally hoisted more fisherman out of the water than I cared to as the wooden Eastern Rig Fishing Fleet on the East Coast slowly disappeared.
Not because wood is a bad thing...it just cant be neglected one tiny bit.
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Not true. Any hull material can suffer , from age, lack of good maintenance , and a poor skipper. Hull Material has very little to do with it.
Be that wood , steel, FRP, Aluminum, or rock.
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02-10-2015, 12:58 PM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OFB
Not true. Any hull material can suffer , from age, lack of good maintenance , and a poor skipper. Hull Material has very little to do with it.
Be that wood , steel, FRP, Aluminum, or rock.
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And this is based on?
Possibly the phase of the moon
Steel and wood must be maintained constantly.
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