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10-02-2014, 11:26 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Roughwater
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10-02-2014, 11:31 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,558
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Rooughwater boats. Never heard of them. How many built and where are they? What's their positives and negatives? Do they live up to their name beyond the flare of the bow?
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10-02-2014, 11:34 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Rooughwater boats. Never heard of them. How many built and where are they? What's their positives and negatives? Do they live up to their name beyond the flare of the bow?
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I believe Dave's boat was previously located in San Fransisco bay prior to his purchase.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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10-02-2014, 11:38 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Hi Mark,
Not many people have. We drove The Promise from Brisbane CA to Seattle October 2012. Just over 900 miles. She did just great, didn't really test her ability because we had great weather. Although rounding Cape Mendocino rang the bell a few times.
The headquarters of Roughwater was in Marina del Ray, so you might just see a few in your cruising grounds if you know what to look for.
Rough Water | | PassageMaker
There is a typo right in the beginning of the above article, but the rest is accurate.
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10-03-2014, 12:02 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,536
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There sure are quite a few up here in the Pacific NW. I've always admired the lines and look of the Roughwater 41 and 35. Great looking boats for coastal cruising! They made a stout little sailboat, too, IIRC...
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10-03-2014, 07:33 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Great, tough, well built boats. The 41 single is the way to go. I like the 8.2 Detroit as orig. low air draft and huge surfaces for solar.
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10-04-2014, 01:08 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Gee I pick an angle that shows off my CQR prominently and nary a comment. Did I post in the wrong forum?
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10-04-2014, 08:46 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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I was raised to just look the other way... If your not going to say something good... We want keep this here not on OTDE...religion, politics, guns anchors....else Ye incurr the dreaded wrath of mods...
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10-04-2014, 06:29 PM
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Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 41
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
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10-04-2014, 06:53 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,724
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mule
I was raised to just look the other way... If your not going to say something good... We want keep this here not on OTDE...religion, politics, guns anchors....else Ye incurr the dreaded wrath of mods...
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Mod wrath shall only smite thee who breaketh the coveted Community Rules. CQR pics which perhaps breaketh rules of style and good taste (  ), breaketh no Community Rules. 
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10-04-2014, 06:55 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,724
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Holy Anchorage, Batman!! Are you required to hang a CQR from your Roughwater bow?
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10-04-2014, 07:11 PM
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Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 41
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
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Possibly! CQRs seem to be very popular here in the PNW. Looking down the dock (I live on my Roughwater full time), I'd say somewhere over 70% of the boats are using them, followed by Danforths (I have one as a backup stowed away), and then Rocnas.
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10-04-2014, 07:29 PM
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Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 41
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
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So about the boat, it is a 1980 or 1981 Roughwater 41... Conflicting documents have stated both years, but purchased for a very fair price with a full 14 layer solid hull, solid decks and cabin tops, with teak and mahogany cabin sides and no problems to speak of, I'm not overly concerned to research it. She's powered by the 185HP turbocharged Perkins, with only just over 2000 hours as the previous owner reported she sat unused, covered, but maintained by a friend for over half her life to date.
I'm currently in the early planning stages of an upgrade from 30 to 50 amp shore power with a revision and minor improvement of the existing 12 volt. I've also re-plumbed the entire fresh water system with PEX, removed the forward mast that usually sits in front of the center pilothouse window and installed an equivalent height but smaller mast on top of said pilothouse, upgraded the solid wood v-berth hatch with a proper modern aluminum and plexi, and made other various minor and sundry improvements.
The pilothouse is almost joyously and entirely free of electronics, with VHF, the original Cetec-Benmar autopilot, an ancient depth sounder that displays using Nixie tubes (a sort of vacuum tube like cathode that could display numbers), and just a handful of gauges for the most important things. I'll eventually add radar, but coming from a sailboat that only had a working compass and as I'm armed with an iPad, GPS, and proper paper charts with a place to put them... what more do you need?
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10-05-2014, 09:04 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Your boat has room for 1000, or easily more watts of solar. At $1 a watt for panels now I would suggest looking hard at upgrading everything to DC so only air conditioning, microwave and perhaps hot water and entertainment is 120. Minimal 120AC. Then 50 amps AC not really needed. I only invert for TV, cable Box and both are off when not used. I can move the plug for the microwave to an inverted circuit if needed, but minimum inversion is very important.
The charts I have seen indicate indicate solar is effective even in Seattle. With all that pilot house and cabin unused deck space you can overcome dim sun Seattle is noted for with more panels, and they are cheap as an upside. You have a whole lot of largely (in most cases) unused exterior deck space, (read envy). When on the cord your battery charger will take over, if needed. Your genset at anchor and engine alternator underweigh finishes the puzzle for added charging.
There is a revolution going on in "battery world" right now, no telling what options will be out there in 5 years so I am thinking golf cart batteries are the way to go now. Cheapest bang for the buck, for now.
I really like the rough waters, I just missed one in Maryland that had been extensivily refit.
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10-05-2014, 09:31 AM
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Guru
City: Tuckerton, NJ
Vessel Name: WIRELESS ONE
Vessel Model: 36 Gulstar MarkII
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 938
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I really like the 42 Roughwater as the best of the Ed Monk Roughwater designs.
Bill
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10-05-2014, 09:35 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Yeah, great boats Billy, I think the 41,42 is the same, single vs twin is my understanding.
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10-05-2014, 09:49 AM
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Guru
City: Tuckerton, NJ
Vessel Name: WIRELESS ONE
Vessel Model: 36 Gulstar MarkII
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 938
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The hulls are not the same from what I could tell (but I could be wrong) and the interior arrangements are different. They are beautiful boats (either the 41 or the 42) in my opinion.
+1 on solar charging and having as many components and appliances that run off of DC as practical. My old Mainship had almost 500 watts of solar on a custom hardtop it worked like a charm in South Jersey. My entertainment systems including the TV sets and the KVH Trac Vision M3 also ran on 12vdc as did the water maker.
Bill
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10-27-2014, 10:26 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketPrice
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Beautiful 41 MP. Where are you parked? I'm at the Canal Marina on the Fremont cut.
Billy, the 35 & 41 (the originals from wood, then glass.) And I think the 58' are Monk Sr. From there on Monk Jr. did the 29', 37' & 42'. There was a 33' sailboat from Roughwater that was a Thomas Gillmer design if I'm not mistaken.
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11-03-2014, 04:21 PM
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Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 41
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
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Thanks! I'm at Shilshole Bay actually.
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01-23-2015, 09:00 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Zara / Journey
Vessel Model: 1971 Grand Banks 36CL / 1980 Roughwater 41
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 43
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Recently purchased a '80 Roughwater 41 and fall more in lust each time I go aboard. The boat needs lots of love but am slowly getting things sorted out. These boats are hell for stout and IMHO have a great classical line. Plan to do some serious cruising in the San Juans and points north this summer. With the GB on the Columbia and the RW in the sound I think I might have died and gone to heaven.
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