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11-16-2020, 09:46 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Park Rapids
Vessel Name: looking for 1st trawler
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 31
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Marine Trader 38
We are looking for our first trawler. Going to look at a 1981 Marine
Trader 38. Have read much on this forum concerning the taiwan boats.
Are there concerns specifically to A MT of this vintage.
Also FL 120 has 3500 hours. What I have read from the knowledgeable people here does not seem excessive.
Finally, she has been in fresh water all her years except fo 6mos.
on the loop. Seems like that would be a plus? steve
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11-17-2020, 09:29 AM
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Member
City: Santa cruz
Vessel Name: Classic lady
Vessel Model: 1980 Albin
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 20
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I think I posted this while trying to reply
CHB BUYERS GUIDE
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11-17-2020, 10:46 AM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MNdiver
We are looking for our first trawler. Going to look at a 1981 Marine
Trader 38. Have read much on this forum concerning the taiwan boats.
Are there concerns specifically to A MT of this vintage.
Also FL 120 has 3500 hours. What I have read from the knowledgeable people here does not seem excessive.
Finally, she has been in fresh water all her years except fo 6mos.
on the loop. Seems like that would be a plus? steve
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I hesitated in a reply because there is not enough information provided and because YOU have not yet seen it. You may look and never return to this thread with follow up info.
The age of a boat obviously did not affect my purchase decision. Actually looked at a MT but favored the GB. One FL would have ruled it out for me, that is personal and many are happy having one expense.
You need to look at the boats that perk your interest by the photo, the description and of course the cost. Only then will you have your own comparison needed to decide.
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SteveK
You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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11-17-2020, 06:48 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Park Rapids
Vessel Name: looking for 1st trawler
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 31
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Delfini, thanks so much for the great link
Soo,thanks for overcoming you hesitation. my 3 questions i felt could easily be opinined upon before I had specifics, just looking for a little help to more prepared for that initial visit. BTW the GB is also very much on our radar.
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11-18-2020, 06:36 AM
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Guru
City: Oriental N.C.
Vessel Name: true heading
Vessel Model: marine trader 38 dc
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 572
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check the rear bulkhead getting ready to replace part of mine. the rear hatch probably leaks
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11-19-2020, 07:40 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Park Rapids
Vessel Name: looking for 1st trawler
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 31
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Thanks timb
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11-20-2020, 10:32 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timb
check the rear bulkhead getting ready to replace part of mine. the rear hatch probably leaks
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This reminds me that I fixed a similar problem in year 14 of the age of my now 40 year old Taiwanese boat.
Most of the serious issues that relate to the origins of the boat will have shown up long ago. Any that have not been repaired by now are not that serious.
3500 engine hours, if accurate (check hour meter for signs that it is not original) is an average of less than 100/yr, typical usage in many parts of the world, but you do need to know where the boat lived for the majority of its lifetime. A comprehensive logbook helps, anything less leads to a lot of guesswork.
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11-20-2020, 04:36 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Park Rapids
Vessel Name: looking for 1st trawler
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 31
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Keith, Thanks for the input. The boat is a Great lakes boat, they are saying all fresh water except for the loop trip. Good reminder to ask to see log book.
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11-20-2020, 05:17 PM
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Guru
City: Trenton
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,521
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I have a fresh water Marine Trader. They are the best.
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Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader
"Angelina"
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11-30-2020, 10:10 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Park Rapids
Vessel Name: looking for 1st trawler
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 31
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Uodate. Wife and I got to see the boat finally. It was covered but were able to get on board and take a good look. Lots to like, but we will keep looking.
Thinking we would like bigger or more windows for one thing.
Thanks for all the advice. The boat is in nice shape, but wood is need of a facelift. This is not an issue for me ( 35 yrs a painter). Good to get eyes on and physically begin the search.
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12-05-2020, 12:20 AM
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Newbie
City: New York
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1
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Can someone Suggest me good travelling area and deep sea Scuba diving area. And Travelling websites at Discount rates.
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05-04-2021, 08:39 AM
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Senior Member
City: Milford
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 224
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With the single 120 Ford Lehman, what should the cruise speed / gph be for a MT 38 double cabin?
Have seen a few advertised but that seems like not enough power. Of course I have no idea so i ask....
--Kevin
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05-04-2021, 11:59 AM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tiz
With the single 120 Ford Lehman, what should the cruise speed / gph be for a MT 38 double cabin?
Have seen a few advertised but that seems like not enough power. Of course I have no idea so i ask....
--Kevin
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need water line length
square root of LWL X 1.34 = hull speed
say 37 feet is 6.082762530298219 X 1.34 = 8.150901790599613 Knots
Then, by common wisdom here, you run at 7 knots for optimal fuel burn for cruise
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SteveK
You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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05-04-2021, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member
City: Milford
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 224
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Thanks for that. I guess I should have been asking for real-world results rather than the theoretical speed of the hull.
What I was getting at was, for longevity of a 120hp engine, should the MT 38 be able to run all day at 8 kts?
I get that slower=fuel savings. So the question stands, at what speed and gph does the MT 38 operate at with the 120 lehman? 1.5gph at 7kts? 3gph at 8 kts? What is top speed? 10kts?
--Kevin
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05-04-2021, 01:15 PM
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Guru
City: Oriental N.C.
Vessel Name: true heading
Vessel Model: marine trader 38 dc
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 572
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I have a 38-dc and I don't think it would do anywhere near 8 knots without burring max fuel. I usually run 6 to 6.5 at around 1600 to 1800 . fuel is probably my lowest expense. check the rear bulkhead before you buy one
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05-04-2021, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member
City: Milford
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 224
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Thanks for that info. Very helpful.
In general with 36-38 ft trawler is. 8kt cruise out of the question at a reasonable fuel burn rate - let’s say 3-4 gph or under?
—Kevin
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05-04-2021, 01:58 PM
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Guru
City: Oriental N.C.
Vessel Name: true heading
Vessel Model: marine trader 38 dc
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 572
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I don't know maybe 7 .from what i understand about the ford 120 is it is best to keep it under 2000 rpms . mine is a 135 single and I love it. most 38's have twins . I usually keep mine under 1900. but mine is a galley down
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