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07-08-2019, 09:08 PM
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City: Nashville
Vessel Name: Here & Now
Vessel Model: Great Harbour TT35
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Allen Cargile, the boat’s builder had a limited marketing budget, and decided to take the boat from New York to Paris, in hopes the publicity would help him sell lots of boats. It might have worked if he hadn’t sailed up the Seine on the day that Elvis died, and his story was ignored by the mainstream press.
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07-08-2019, 09:26 PM
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City: St Augustine,Fl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tom hudson
Allen Cargile, the boat’s builder had a limited marketing budget, and decided to take the boat from New York to Paris, in hopes the publicity would help him sell lots of boats. It might have worked if he hadn’t sailed up the Seine on the day that Elvis died, and his story was ignored by the mainstream press.
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lol, bad stuff you can't prepare for. Kind of a bummer, I think it would have a niche larger than it had..I admire his vision
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07-08-2019, 09:34 PM
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Member
City: Nashville
Vessel Name: Here & Now
Vessel Model: Great Harbour TT35
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Cargile wanted to design a family weekend cruiser that could be towed behind a full-size station wagon or sedan of the day. It was narrow enough that it didn’t need a wide load permit. It was built in 28’ and 30’ lengths.
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07-09-2019, 12:36 AM
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OK, so it was available in 28’ or 30’ of ugly...
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07-09-2019, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member
City: Florida
Vessel Name: Chez Reagan
Vessel Model: Cargile Cutter
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Okay, I confess, I own one. "71, LM318, 28'. 600 of them made in the 70's by Alan Cargile in Nashville TN. On the 50th anniversary of the Lindbergh Atlantic flight (1977?) He sailed one across the Atlantic from New York to Paris, unassisted. He had 1400 gals of diesel on board. Amazing story documented in the May 1978 edition of the Ensign magazine. This is a warmer weather boat. No helm in the cabin, only the flying bridge. The cabin is spacious, 8'x14', plus a full head and V-berth forward. Stand up walk through all the way hence the tremendous freeboard forward. I live in Florida. Works for me.
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07-09-2019, 07:20 AM
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City: Aventura FL
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I am sure the Cutter article is very interesting. Alas my eyes cannot read the fine print and I cannot get it to enlarge clearly. POUT
He was proving a point.... 'under the proper circumstance the boat can successfully cross the ocean.'
I doubt if he was recommending others try.
The, then, new small Nordhavn made the trip to Bermuda in the company of a couple other larger Nordhavn and refueled, a little bit, along the way from one of the larger boats, with a pump and a garden hose.
I am guessing the boat is still there because there was never an article about the return trip.
The folks at Nordhavn, who made the trip, did say, it was a voyage to prove the seaworthiness of the design and did make a point, they would not recommend doing it again.
They traveled with the folks from Nordhavn, lots of spare parts and at least one engineer/mechanic from Nordhavn plus at least one electronic guru.
We did have one 25-30 foot fishing boat depart from this marina. They did have one fuel bladder in the cockpit. They were headed to someplace in northern South America. I moved my boat in the marina so I never walk by their slip anymore. I did not know if they planned to come back or just sell the boat at their destination. As I recall, they too had 3 people on board.
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07-09-2019, 10:50 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsfish
I thought my first wife was ugly but this is really the worst looking boat I’ve seen, I may have nightmares tonight.
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You married a woman you thought was ugly?
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07-09-2019, 10:56 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
I am sure the Cutter article is very interesting. Alas my eyes cannot read the fine print and I cannot get it to enlarge clearly. POUT
He was proving a point.... 'under the proper circumstance the boat can successfully cross the ocean.'
I doubt if he was recommending others try.
The, then, new small Nordhavn made the trip to Bermuda in the company of a couple other larger Nordhavn and refueled, a little bit, along the way from one of the larger boats, with a pump and a garden hose.
I am guessing the boat is still there because there was never an article about the return trip.
The folks at Nordhavn, who made the trip, did say, it was a voyage to prove the seaworthiness of the design and did make a point, they would not recommend doing it again.
They traveled with the folks from Nordhavn, lots of spare parts and at least one engineer/mechanic from Nordhavn plus at least one electronic guru.
We did have one 25-30 foot fishing boat depart from this marina. They did have one fuel bladder in the cockpit. They were headed to someplace in northern South America. I moved my boat in the marina so I never walk by their slip anymore. I did not know if they planned to come back or just sell the boat at their destination. As I recall, they too had 3 people on board.
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The Cutter and her crew was hit with some severe weather and seas. They used a storm droug off the bow while reversing into waves to keep the boat from being rolled. At least that is my understanding from the article.
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07-09-2019, 11:15 AM
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Ben. I married her in the ‘60s while we were both in school (undergraduate) so that should give you a clue. After three years she became fugly. We parted and I went work making $$$, I had to pay her off.
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07-09-2019, 11:48 AM
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City: Upstate,SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsfish
Ben. I married her in the ‘60s while we were both in school (undergraduate) so that should give you a clue. After three years she became fugly. We parted and I went work making $$$, I had to pay her off.
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I see. I nearly had that experience myself. Young and pretty. Then a few years later, what the heck happened?
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07-09-2019, 12:08 PM
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City: Hernando Beach
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Friz:
Cool boat! And I do NOT think it is ugly at all; your boat is uniquely attractive.
When we get back to our home in FL in November, we'd love to visit your unique boat on our unique boat. Maybe we can also raft up with Carl on his Scout, and create a real ruckus.
Do you trailer it much or primarily cruise Florida? We've had some trailering adventures this summer and are presently on the Tennesse River.
Cheers,
Mrs. Trombley
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07-09-2019, 12:13 PM
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City: Miami River
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Ben
Exactly, and I did it again.
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07-09-2019, 12:26 PM
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City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsfish
Ben
Exactly, and I did it again.
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I'm twice divorced and working on a third, even though we aren't technically married. 18 years with a 16 year old son, I may as well be.
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07-09-2019, 04:05 PM
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City: Houston
Join Date: Aug 2016
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My ex started to turn into a truly ugly person the day I married her, and went downhill from there. Swore I'd never make that mistake again - 25 years and holding, still (legally) single. Had I not gotten out when I did, I wouldn't be on a boat forum today - I'd be dead of a massive heart attack or a debilitating stroke (or be on death row) - in any event, broke.
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07-09-2019, 04:43 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
I'm twice divorced and working on a third, even though we aren't technically married. 18 years with a 16 year old son, I may as well be.
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Married and divorced 3 times, no children at all. No longer are there $400 divorces. The last one cost me over $100K and I was happy to pay my lawyer, her lawyer and gave his a 'lovely parting gift'.
I gave up on getting married. Obviously, I am no good at it. SHRUG
Now I have a sweet, gentle VN house mouse with a heart of gold. And yes, I did tell her, I will never marry again. She has accepted that.
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07-09-2019, 08:25 PM
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Member
City: Grass Valley Ca
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Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Not only ugly, dangerous
One went turtle on SFBay a number of years ago, during a fleet week show all aboard went to upper deck for viewing,as I remember everyone survived.
Any boat that trailers down the freeway belongs on the freeway.
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07-10-2019, 06:49 AM
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City: Houston
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Quote:
Originally Posted by learjett2
Any boat that trailers down the freeway belongs on the freeway.
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ouch! :d
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07-10-2019, 12:31 PM
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City: Upstate,SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd2
ouch! :d
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Yeah, that kind of grazes my feelings. The boat I'm building is offshore capable displacement cruiser. It is also trailerable.
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07-10-2019, 06:31 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
City: Florida
Vessel Name: Chez Reagan
Vessel Model: Cargile Cutter
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by learjett2
One went turtle on SFBay a number of years ago, during a fleet week show all aboard went to upper deck for viewing,as I remember everyone survived.
Any boat that trailers down the freeway belongs on the freeway.
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A comment intended to stir things up, consciously or not. Apparently oblivious to the outcome of overloading any vessel. Curious if your bucket of bolts could make such a crossing?
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07-10-2019, 06:49 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
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Too many people on one side and or up high can make a boat unstable.
Many years ago, (in Chicago, 1930s?) Summer excursion, day trip for a picnic ..... ferry, everyone went to the dock side of the vessel to wave good bye. Boat took on water, sank at the pier, many lives were lost.
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