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03-21-2023, 03:31 PM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,410
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San Juan Islands Cruise
First cruise of the year. Out in the San Juan Islands to Friday Harbor.
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What kind of boat is that?
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03-21-2023, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
City: San Diego, CA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Hatteras 48 LRC
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Nice photos. Not common to see a sail. Could you share some insight into how you use it and pros and cons? Is it kept up even when docking?
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03-23-2023, 01:33 PM
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City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,027
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Following
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03-23-2023, 03:08 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cedar City
Join Date: Dec 2021
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I guess ever little bit helps..>>>Dan
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03-23-2023, 04:33 PM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Probably more of a steadying sail to have a stabilizing effect underway and point into the wind at anchor.
Ted
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03-24-2023, 09:55 AM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,410
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Have had this sail on board and never used it. Decided to see if there was any affect and have a little fun at the same time. As an aid to propulsion it did nothing even when deployed on a downwind leg. As a steadying sail it did show some small usefulness with beam seas and wind. As a vessel under sail we were able to have some fun with our boating friends and teasing them about giving way to us. We kept it raised when pulling into port as a nod to "Captain Ron". Additionally it looks kind of cool.
Cheers
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03-24-2023, 10:30 AM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,566
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Even a sailboat with its sails raised is considered a power boat if the engine is running.
David
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03-24-2023, 10:57 AM
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Member
City: Cabrillo Beach
Vessel Name: Novela
Vessel Model: Californian 42 LRC
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Would love to know about the effectiveness of the steadying sail. I have thought about rigging one on our Californian 42 LRC. We often travel to Catalina and back which is often a beam reach with rolling seas. Seems like this would be perfect.
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03-24-2023, 12:20 PM
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Guru
City: Friday Harbor, WA USA
Vessel Name: FORTITUDE
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 54-8
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 997
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We have steadying sails (jib, main, mizzen) and they work surprisingly well in a beam sea/wind. Reduces roll but about 50%, mizzen helps manage sailing on anchor.
I'd say our rig is a quite a bit larger than typical steadying sails installed on trawlers but still far smaller than a similarly sized motorsailor.
Main mast is about 30' tall, mizzen is 20'. Jib is a hank-on Yankee style and doesn't get put up often. I've love to install a roller furler with a big genoa up there.
Bob - nice Willard!
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03-24-2023, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Mabuhay
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 397
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With that front sail up, does it feel like you're piloting with your eyes closed?
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03-24-2023, 03:59 PM
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Guru
City: Friday Harbor, WA USA
Vessel Name: FORTITUDE
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 54-8
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w8n4sun
With that front sail up, does it feel like you're piloting with your eyes closed?
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I see far few logs, ferries and traffic that way! 
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03-24-2023, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Mabuhay
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 397
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Blind faith.
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03-24-2023, 05:38 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,481
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Niiiice!
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03-27-2023, 01:24 PM
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City: Winthrop
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6
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Did you notice any progress on rebuilding Herb's Tavern?
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03-27-2023, 01:43 PM
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City: Cowiche, WA
Join Date: Sep 2011
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When we owned a Willard 30 we used the steadying/stay sail when crossing the Strait of Georgia and it worked fantastic on our boat when taking beam seas. We did not need to tack like the other vessels crossing the straits. Made the ride very comfortable, kind of a rocking horse motion when on the flybridge. But….coming into a marina with it up is not recommended as it will get blown around and with the single screw it will be high anxiety time trying to dock….this I know from experience.
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1974 Grand Banks 36-427
Vashon Island, WA
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03-27-2023, 01:49 PM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nordski
Did you notice any progress on rebuilding Herb's Tavern?
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It's not going to be rebuilt. As of now it is going to be a community garden. My bet is that spot will eventually be condo's or some sort of mixed use building. It's a shame that they have decided not to rebuild.
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03-27-2023, 01:52 PM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kolive
When we owned a Willard 30 we used the steadying/stay sail when crossing the Strait of Georgia and it worked fantastic on our boat when taking beam seas. We did not need to tack like the other vessels crossing the straits. Made the ride very comfortable, kind of a rocking horse motion when on the flybridge. But….coming into a marina with it up is not recommended as it will get blown around and with the single screw it will be high anxiety time trying to dock….this I know from experience.
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Hi Keith,
You are absolutely right about pulling in with the sail up. The only reason we did is that it was dead calm that day and we had to sail past about 15 of our cruising buddies.
We are looking forward to giving it an actual test this summer crossing the Straights on our way north.
Nice to hear from you again!
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