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Old 08-14-2019, 10:12 PM   #1
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Sliding Door to Cabin on MS 34 Hard to Open

The sliding door to the cabin from the helm is getting harder and harder to slide open on our MS 34 Pilot. Any suggestions on how to clean and or lubricate the tracks? lithium grease? Graphite, etc? Thanks for any help!!
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:59 AM   #2
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may want to get the door off and see if there's rollers maybe nylon that flattened out or frozen
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:22 AM   #3
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We use Boeshield on our door rollers. Works great!

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Old 08-17-2019, 09:11 AM   #4
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Will give it a try. Thanks!!
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:34 AM   #5
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The rollers are known to rust. The rollers need to be replaced. I did mine 2 years ago.

1) Remove the door
-> Try to raise wheels as much as possible. There should be holes at the bottom of both doors that will take a phillips head screw driver.
-> Mind had a track at the top of the door that had to be removed.
-> Lift the door so that the rollers clear the track. Pop-up the bottom, then the top will come out of the slot (It helps to have 2 people)

2) Remove the rollers

-> I had to remove the bottom of the door
-> now remove the rollers from the bottom of the door

3) Visit Box Stores and Hardware Stores until you find a set that fit. I found mine in Lowe's

4) Install new rollers

5) Re-install door.
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I replaced the upper rollers last year and found the exact replacement “trucks” from Boat Outfitters. These rollers are available in three sizes. I first removed the shroud to access the door and loosened the upper track to identify what roller was needed. The wheels on mine has totally deteriorated . The mechanical repairs were straightforward however cleaning all the caulk and re- caulking was tedious.
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I replaced the upper rollers last year and found the exact replacement “trucks” from Boat Outfitters. These rollers are available in three sizes. I first removed the shroud to access the door and loosened the upper track to identify what roller was needed. The wheels on mine has totally deteriorated . The mechanical repairs were straightforward however cleaning all the caulk and re- caulking was tedious.


Can the sliding door be removed without removing the shroud? One response indicates the door can be removed with the shroud in place while another removes the shroud. Is it possible to remove the door without removing the shroud cover?
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Sliding door

My boat is a 2001 Pilot 34 Hard Top. The shroud is held in place with screws which are easily accessible. The joint is caulked to keep things water tight. Since the upper track must be loosened to slide the door out, the shroud/cover needs to come off. Take a look at the diagram of the upper track on Boat Outfitters site and you’ll see the wheels are held captive by the track. I replaced my upper track since it was split. Make sure all screws on the track are flush so as not to interfere with rollers. Hint.. don’t re use the stainless screws if the heads are even slightly damaged. Buy some new screws and match the Phillips head driver accordingly. (Ask me how I know&#128526 Good luck with it ... a rewarding repair!
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Old 04-19-2022, 09:38 AM   #9
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I replaced the upper rollers last year and found the exact replacement “trucks” from Boat Outfitters. These rollers are available in three sizes. I first removed the shroud to access the door and loosened the upper track to identify what roller was needed. The wheels on mine has totally deteriorated . The mechanical repairs were straightforward however cleaning all the caulk and re- caulking was tedious.
I have a mainship 390 and i am trying to remove the helm door to replace the rollers. Can you explain further what shroud you took off? The vertical shroud? the top shroud? How did you loosen the upper track. I don't see any screws? I am at a total loss on how to remove this helm door.
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Old 04-19-2022, 01:21 PM   #10
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i believe the shroud is probably unique to the pilots. it is a cover panel which creates a "pocket door" for the sliding main companionway door. it's actually pretty easy to remove.
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Old 04-20-2022, 06:45 AM   #11
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Hammer.. The 34 Pilot and the 390 are different species. Sorry .. I have no experience with your model. Hopefully someone else on the forum can steer you towards a solution.
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