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Old 09-22-2018, 10:16 PM   #41
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Thanks to all. Interesting points.

I'm doing a bit of a fall refit before heading south from Chicago. Will keep the flybridge for now. I had considered repainting the upper deck and rebedding everything but think I'll defer that to spring.

I am reinstalling the lower helm seat and putting down a layer of MLV in the main cabin to reduce noise. I have a Cummins BTA that I mostly run slow but at higher speeds the noise is a bit excessive. I'm going to try out using the lower station as my default for a while.

Good points about motion. My boat definitely leans out in turns. It's a bit disconcerting at speed. And it's always felt a little pendulous. But I come to this from a sailing background. Maybe I'll start walking around marinas doing rock tests :-).

I also like the cockpit control idea. Don't think I'd want a wheel, but could repurpose the throttle and AP head and add a jog lever.

WRT major mods and resale, I'm not concerned. I bought the boat as an experiment, can make the change at minimal cost, and can revert to original if it doesn't work out.

WRT aesthetics, I don't normally suffer from boat envy, but I had the opportunity to see a MJM 50z recently, at anchor and a couple of times underway. That's a good looking boat... I know I can't turn my old hulk into that, but it got me thinking...
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:32 PM   #42
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Far enough south and the case should reverse. Its nicer in the airconditioned salon.
I'll say again. One or two open pilothouse doors usually provides more than enough air conditioning here.
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Old 09-23-2018, 04:35 AM   #43
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My sentiments and experience exactly. Quieter as well.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:33 PM   #44
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I'm all for knocking off that big forehead.


I get seasick on FBs and I never get seasick inside or on-deck. I do like the cockpit steering idea. It was one of the options I was going to build into my big boat if I get to build it. I also like the lower air draft.



Does anyone know if Jeff's specific model has the removable FB? I have seen some boats that have removable FB's for shipping and storage, I ass-u-me. There's a diesel shop not far from me that has three boats on the hard, around the 34-foot size, all with their FBs removed and sitting beside them.
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I was wondering the same question of what is left as roof once the flybridge is removed. Is there generally a glassed roof under the fly bridge which contains the head liner. Can’t see the factory delivering boats via truck that are not weathertight.
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There are pictures that are pretty descriptive here. Not mine but a sistership.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/360936...7628403764947/
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Here's a couple of the pictures we took of ours when the bridge was removed. It'll give you a general idea of what a model 1 mainship looks like with no bridge plus what the area under the bridge looks like. The later model III's had a hump on the forward part of the floor for the lower helm engine instruments but the earlier run models were flat everywhere. The only big hole would be the wire/cable chase on the starboard side above the salon bulkhead. It probably wouldn't make a bad looking job, without the bridge.
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She looks stunning. Very nice lines.
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That answers my question. Thanks. That looks great.
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I was wondering the same question of what is left as roof once the flybridge is removed. Is there generally a glassed roof under the fly bridge which contains the head liner. Canít see the factory delivering boats via truck that are not weathertight.
On most boats, the deck of the FB is the roof of the cabin and covers it from side to side and front to back. Once the FB is cut off, it's a matter of cleaning up the deck, making any repairs, filling holes, fiberglassing over it, and finishing it off.
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On most boats, the deck of the FB is the roof of the cabin and covers it from side to side and front to back. Once the FB is cut off, it's a matter of cleaning up the deck, making any repairs, filling holes, fiberglassing over it, and finishing it off.


Sounds so easy!
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Sounds so easy!
On some boats, it can be.
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