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09-22-2018, 10:16 PM
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City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
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Thanks to all. Interesting points.
I'm doing a bit of a fall refit before heading south from Chicago. Will keep the flybridge for now. I had considered repainting the upper deck and rebedding everything but think I'll defer that to spring.
I am reinstalling the lower helm seat and putting down a layer of MLV in the main cabin to reduce noise. I have a Cummins BTA that I mostly run slow but at higher speeds the noise is a bit excessive. I'm going to try out using the lower station as my default for a while.
Good points about motion. My boat definitely leans out in turns. It's a bit disconcerting at speed. And it's always felt a little pendulous. But I come to this from a sailing background. Maybe I'll start walking around marinas doing rock tests :-).
I also like the cockpit control idea. Don't think I'd want a wheel, but could repurpose the throttle and AP head and add a jog lever.
WRT major mods and resale, I'm not concerned. I bought the boat as an experiment, can make the change at minimal cost, and can revert to original if it doesn't work out.
WRT aesthetics, I don't normally suffer from boat envy, but I had the opportunity to see a MJM 50z recently, at anchor and a couple of times underway. That's a good looking boat... I know I can't turn my old hulk into that, but it got me thinking...
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09-22-2018, 11:32 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimisbell
Far enough south and the case should reverse. Its nicer in the airconditioned salon.
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I'll say again. One or two open pilothouse doors usually provides more than enough air conditioning here.
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09-23-2018, 04:35 AM
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Member
City: Portland
Vessel Name: meander
Vessel Model: Mariner 40 Sedan
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 9
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My sentiments and experience exactly. Quieter as well.
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09-28-2018, 07:33 PM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,867
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I'm all for knocking off that big forehead.
I get seasick on FBs and I never get seasick inside or on-deck. I do like the cockpit steering idea. It was one of the options I was going to build into my big boat if I get to build it. I also like the lower air draft.
Does anyone know if Jeff's specific model has the removable FB? I have seen some boats that have removable FB's for shipping and storage, I ass-u-me. There's a diesel shop not far from me that has three boats on the hard, around the 34-foot size, all with their FBs removed and sitting beside them.
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10-05-2018, 09:36 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Oriente
Vessel Model: Sabre 34 Flybridge
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 72
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I was wondering the same question of what is left as roof once the flybridge is removed. Is there generally a glassed roof under the fly bridge which contains the head liner. Can’t see the factory delivering boats via truck that are not weathertight.
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10-06-2018, 02:28 AM
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,832
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There are pictures that are pretty descriptive here. Not mine but a sistership.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/360936...7628403764947/
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10-06-2018, 06:30 AM
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Guru
City: Kilmarnock VA
Vessel Name: Wandering Star
Vessel Model: PSN40
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,210
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Here's a couple of the pictures we took of ours when the bridge was removed. It'll give you a general idea of what a model 1 mainship looks like with no bridge plus what the area under the bridge looks like. The later model III's had a hump on the forward part of the floor for the lower helm engine instruments but the earlier run models were flat everywhere. The only big hole would be the wire/cable chase on the starboard side above the salon bulkhead. It probably wouldn't make a bad looking job, without the bridge.
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10-06-2018, 07:29 AM
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Guru
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 623
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She looks stunning. Very nice lines.
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10-06-2018, 07:42 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Oriente
Vessel Model: Sabre 34 Flybridge
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 72
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That answers my question. Thanks. That looks great.
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10-06-2018, 09:05 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boating rich
I was wondering the same question of what is left as roof once the flybridge is removed. Is there generally a glassed roof under the fly bridge which contains the head liner. Can’t see the factory delivering boats via truck that are not weathertight.
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On most boats, the deck of the FB is the roof of the cabin and covers it from side to side and front to back. Once the FB is cut off, it's a matter of cleaning up the deck, making any repairs, filling holes, fiberglassing over it, and finishing it off.
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10-06-2018, 10:34 AM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
On most boats, the deck of the FB is the roof of the cabin and covers it from side to side and front to back. Once the FB is cut off, it's a matter of cleaning up the deck, making any repairs, filling holes, fiberglassing over it, and finishing it off.
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Sounds so easy!
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10-06-2018, 11:46 AM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,386
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What kind of boat is that?
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10-07-2018, 09:10 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Cofer
Sounds so easy!
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On some boats, it can be.
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