Lot's of discussion on the Yahoo Group

[johnma]

There is a lot of discussion over on the Yahoo Mainship group. Might be a lot of new TF members coming over. Biggest complaint in the Yahoo group is there is not enough Mainship activity on TF. People are saying that if everyone comes over that will change
John
MS390

 

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Come on over! Welcomed with a scotch and a cheap cigar!!!

 

[folivier]

I tried joining a few weeks ago and still haven't been approved. Think I'll stay right here.

 

[siestakey]

Bring them on great peeps here

 

[FlyWright]

Be sure to let me know when they're coming. I'll inform the welcoming committee and strike up the marching band.

 

[CPseudonym]

John I'd love to see them but have heard this before. As to not enough Mainship activity the number one brand of boat that I moved threads out of the General section and into the builder forum was Mainship. I'd move 10-20 Mainship threads for every Krogen, Nordhavn, or other brand.

Tell your buddies there won't be any more content here than normal(which is quite a bit) if they ain't over here creating it.

 

[BruceK]

If the Mainship yahoo site is anything like the IG one, it`s an easy decision.

 

[Crusty Chief]

What's sa Mainship? Is it a Trawler?

 

[johnma]

several people are still pushing over there to move here.
It appears some of them started a facebook forum so they could trade photo's. im going iover now to tell them to join here and that its easy do do photos here. stay tuned....
john

 

[healhustler]

Yahoo Groups as a host isn't very easy to use or navigate. Conversation and traffic is also down with Krogen Cruisers Group. Posting or navigating to projects and photos are a pain so some of us give up. I did.

 

[No Mast]

Be sure to let me know when they're coming. I'll inform the welcoming committee and strike up the marching band.

do we have to wear TF shirts

 

[johnsct]

Just subscribed to this thread

I have been a member of TF for sometime, however never really used it. But with all the discussion on the Yahoo site I have now subscribed to this forum. So Here I am..

We have a 97 350 with twin Volvo's. Just completed the Loop with her a month ago. Check out our blog at ontheloopwithserenity.blogspot.com. We have owned this boat since 2002.

Glad to be here.

 

[Forkliftt]

Welcome aboard John! That's a great blog you have.


1983 Present 42 Sundeck
Twin Lehman 135's

 

[wyoboater]

I'm also a member of the yahoo group, and I occasionally read the daily e-mails, but I much prefer this group as it is much easier to use. And, you're right, if they come over and use the Mainship forum, there'll be as much here as there is on Yahoo. I for one will not follow if they go to Facebook. I have absolutely no desire to sign up there for any reason.

 

[Bacchus]

I have been a member of TF for sometime, however never really used it. But with all the discussion on the Yahoo site I have now subscribed to this forum. So Here I am..

We have a 97 350 with twin Volvo's. Just completed the Loop with her a month ago. Check out our blog at ontheloopwithserenity.blogspot.com. We have owned this boat since 2002.

Glad to be here.

John...
Welcome
I have been a member of both but much prefer TF and see no reason why the MS sub forum at TF couldn't serve as a direct substitute for the yahoo MS one.
I've expressed my opinion there and will continue to monitor sentiments.

Don
'08 34 HT
"Bacchus"

 

[DavidM]

Why I prefer a dedicated Mainship forum

Don asked me over on the Yahoo Mainship site why I prefer a dedicated Mainship forum, not part of TF. This is my answer as posted on Yahoo:

Don and others:


It seems that the boat specific subforums on Trawler Forum are lightly used. The Mainship subforum has ten times the traffic of any other boat however. Maybe that is because Yahoo is so crappy and boats like the Grand Banks have good and active dedicated forums. So it would be better to start a forum dedicated to Mainships, separate from the Yahoo or TF sites. There should be plenty of prospective members.


I don't know what it takes to start a form. Is the ubiquitous vBulletin system that TF and lots of other sites are based on available to anyone that wants to start a specialty web site? That system is ok, but polluted with ads.


If I were a young IT professional, had access to web hosting, owned a Mainship, loved her and planned to keep her forever, I would start my own forum using one of the free software packages like Simple Machines Forum. I am not that person.


Anyone listening? But lacking that someone, the TF subforum is certainly a better option than Yahoo.


David

 

[Marin]

There are two Grand Banks owners forums. The original one was started some two decades ago by a couple of guys and it was hosted by a large east coast GB distributor/dealer. When GB reorganized and dropped this company as a distributor/dealer the company decided to no longer host the owners forum.

The two founders took it over themselves and it remains this way today. However GB itself decided to create an owners forum as part of their website. The independent forum, the IAGBO, is the most popular but the GB-hosted site has a following, too. Some owners participate in both.

The independnt site remains ad-free.

 

[Bacchus]

Al, Craig, Anyone else?
Anyone aware of a way to import history from another forum??
If so that could be a major factor.

One of the major barriers to moving is losing all the history - assuming the yahoo site goes away if nobody uses it. The owner / moderator has chimed in and seems willing to cooperate to some extent.

 

[Tom.B]

Perhaps the Mainship people are missing the fact that not all Mainship questions make it into the Mainship sub-forum. If it's an engine specific question, it goes in the engine section. If it's an anchor question, it goes in the anchor forum, and so on. Don't just assume that a lightly used forum that is Mainship specific means there isn't a lot of activity by Mainship owners. It might likely be just because it is a little diluted by topic-specific questions.

And Craig is right... Those guys have said before that they are all coming and they never really have in any great number. I, for one, would love to have them all here. I tend to get a little sick to my stomach when I try and use the Yahoo Groups. Might as well be an alt.trawlers.mainship BBS newsgroup

 

[siestakey]

Perhaps the Mainship people are missing the fact that not all Mainship questions make it into the Mainship sub-forum. If it's an engine specific question, it goes in the engine section. If it's an anchor question, it goes in the anchor forum, and so on. Don't just assume that a lightly used forum that is Mainship specific means there isn't a lot of activity by Mainship owners. It might likely be just because it is a little diluted by topic-specific questions.

And Craig is right... Those guys have said before that they are all coming and they never really have in any great number. I, for one, would love to have them all here. I tend to get a little sick to my stomach when I try and use the Yahoo Groups. Might as well be an alt.trawlers.mainship BBS newsgroup

I agree I actually joined the MT forum a paid service and it just does not have a big enough user base to get a diverse answer

For example not all my make and model even had the same engine on here I can ask a Volvo TAMD question and get lots of great answers

Welcome all the new guys coming over

 

[CPseudonym]

Tom summed the rest up well and though I'm no longer a Site Team member I'll answer the question regarding importing history (more correctly you are referring to importing existing content). That practice is generally frowned upon unless the Mainship Yahoo group was being purchased by this forums ownership. Even then Yahoo would be highly unlikely to sell that content at any price.

If you read the terms of use for almost every forum on the internet(including Yahoo groups) you're likely to find a clause granting full ownership of any and all user generated content to the forum owner. It's more complicated than that of course and considering over 5% of our active users are attorneys I'll defer to any of them expand upon my remarks.

Edit: Keep in mind that neither the moderators nor the administrators of either this forum or the Mainship Group have any ownership interest whatsoever. Social Knowledge owns this forum and Yahoo owns all content at the MS Group.

 

[Forkliftt]

Possibly a hyperlink to the Yahoo site to access past info??
Lost current/ past info after a Passage Maker forum update is what I remember as being a part of why Baker started TrawlerForum. Hopefully the Yahoo forum stays alive either way.


1983 Present 42 Sundeck
Twin Lehman 135's

 

[DavidM]

The Yahoo thread is getting a bit ugly. This thread must be 50 posts long now. There seem to be two categories of posters: those who say the Yahoo site is disfunctional (me), and those including the moderators who say it is fine. The moderators of course are winning as they hold all the cards.

David

 

[kwmeyer13]

I think more of the members are starting to see some of the issues being discussed. I don't think the mods hold all the cards and they are not swaying all the members. Besides its not like this is a competition, right?
Perhaps I should post a link there to here to make it a little easier for people to compare one site to the other.

 

[johnma]

I posted a couple of times over there today and will continue. it is difficult to use and navigate. I'm just suggesting to people to join here also and post questions and comments on both. the history is the biggest issue. but you need to be a programmer to find it.
John
MS390

 

[johnma]

I already posted the link there.
John
MS390

 

[kwmeyer13]

I already posted the link there.
John
MS390

When did you post it? Did the title of the post for the link say "please subscribe" If it did then the link was removed because the message was blank.

 

[FlyWright]

First off, welcome to the new Mainship Members. I hope you guys pull a chair up to the table and join in the conversations. Some may be Mainship specific, but much is just good to know stuff that's applicable to all boats. Take a look at the stickies with How-to instructions, but feel free to ask any questions of anyone, but especially the Mods/TF Site Team. We're the folks with the BOLD screen names.

I have a Marshall Californian and wish the builder had something like a Builder Forum website. While looking for one, I found Trawler Forum. We've built quite a collection of Californian members and now we've built up a collection of documents including manuals and electrical drawings. It is probably the greatest concentration of Californian material on one website.
Hopefully you guys will have similar success. We're all glad to have you here and look forward to your questions, advice, stories and perspectives.

BTW, we have our resident BS criers who will pipe up periodically when they perceive an opinion that differs from theirs. We try to keep 'em on a tight leash, but sometimes they gain some courage and traction for short periods. You'll recognize them by their occasional bark and profusely professed professionalism. They're usually right but have a knack for saying it in the most 'interesting' ways.

Hopefully someone has a link of Hospitality Officer Andy G's post introducing the various sections of the ship Trawler Forum. I looked but couldn't find it.

 

[siestakey]

First off, welcome to the new Mainship Members. I hope you guys pull a chair up to the table and join in the conversations. Some may be Mainship specific, but much is just good to know stuff that's applicable to all boats. Take a look at the stickies with How-to instructions, but feel free to ask any questions of anyone, but especially the Mods/TF Site Team. We're the folks with the BOLD screen names.

I have a Marshall Californian and wish the builder had something like a Builder Forum website. While looking for one, I found Trawler Forum. We've built quite a collection of Californian members and now we've built up a collection of documents including manuals and electrical drawings. It is probably the greatest concentration of Californian material on one website.
Hopefully you guys will have similar success. We're all glad to have you here and look forward to your questions, advice, stories and perspectives.

BTW, we have our resident BS criers who will pipe up periodically when they perceive an opinion that differs from theirs. We try to keep 'em on a tight leash, but sometimes they gain some courage and traction for short periods. You'll recognize them by their occasional bark and profusely professed professionalism. They're usually right but have a knack for saying it in the most 'interesting' ways.

Hopefully someone has a link of Hospitality Officer Andy G's post introducing the various sections of the ship Trawler Forum. I looked but couldn't find it.

Well said FW

and again welcome Mainshippers

 

[ricktara]

thanks for the welcome. I have been a member of both for close to a year and find both sites invaluable. I will continue to search for my information in both.
Thanks again.
Rick Tara
2000 MS 390T