Lot's of discussion on the Yahoo Group - Page 3

**Bacchus** · 01-07-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogoho

I am still finding my way around this site and enquire if there are specific manufacturer groups. I have owned a 1984 Mainship 34 for over 15 years and have just purchased a 2008 model. I am also the current "commodore" of the Deep South Mainship Owners group. I would like to see a group that shares info for Mainshipers, especially given the lack of manufacturer support due to their bankruptcy. Marlow simply bought the name and the molds. Not aware of any support being provided by them, nor would I, understandably, anticipate such.

Thanks for any heads up or help here.

Rogoho...
Welcome
I believe you found it... This is the Mainship subforum and a good place to post MS specific inquiries.
Also be aware that any equipment or system inquiry that isn't unique to MS's may benefit by posting in the other generic subforums... power systems...electrical...etc
e.g. Yanmar engines, Kohler gennie, etc

Be sure to check out the library feature - again some good info there...

Let me know if I can help in any way...I also have a 2008 MS 34 HT and have found lots of good links & sources.

Molly · 07-30-2018, 07:53 AM

I joined both. TF is far and above. Actually, I will probably unsubscribe at some point from Yahoo. This forum is set up much better. Coo do's to the organizers!

Gouchergal · 12-27-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom.B

Perhaps the Mainship people are missing the fact that not all Mainship questions make it into the Mainship sub-forum. If it's an engine specific question, it goes in the engine section. If it's an anchor question, it goes in the anchor forum, and so on. Don't just assume that a lightly used forum that is Mainship specific means there isn't a lot of activity by Mainship owners. It might likely be just because it is a little diluted by topic-specific questions.

And Craig is right... Those guys have said before that they are all coming and they never really have in any great number. I, for one, would love to have them all here. I tend to get a little sick to my stomach when I try and use the Yahoo Groups. Might as well be an alt.trawlers.mainship BBS newsgroup :-)

Tom B, I agree. I sometimes forget about the MS sub forum, even when I have a MS specific question. And of course, the more eyes that are seeing your question, the better the answers, no matter the brand of trawler!
Vickie aka Gouchergal

**Bacchus** · 10-17-2019, 02:28 PM

It looks like the rumors and rumblings over on Yahoo are finally TRUE

"Yahoo has made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site.
Beginning October 28, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed.
You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded."

If any TFers have files there and want to save them I'd suggest copy / posting them to the TF Library

For More Details

GonCruzn3 · 10-20-2019, 01:03 PM

I'm checking in for the first time in TF, hope it goes well, I've had our 430 aft cabin for 12 years now, done the Great Loop, Down East loop, thinking of having the mast hindged this winter,located in Pasadena Md

Greg Franklin
GonCruzn3

Wayfarer · 10-20-2019, 01:43 PM

Welcome aboard Greg. The 430 is a fine ship.

OldDan1943 · 10-20-2019, 03:56 PM

We just cant win for losing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacchus

It looks like the rumors and rumblings over on Yahoo are finally TRUE

"Yahoo has made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site.
Beginning October 28, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed.
You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded."

If any TFers have files there and want to save them I'd suggest copy / posting them to the TF Library

For More Details

D. Wilson · 10-27-2019, 10:54 PM

We just bought our first boat, a 1999 Mainship 350/390 in June. I’m here moving from the Yahoo group. I’ve already introduced myself on the TF Welcome Mat and now saying hi to this Marlow Mainship group. Adventures every minute when we’re on the boat!

Seevee · 10-28-2019, 06:51 AM

There have been quite a few folks discourages with the Yahoo groups forum, and I'm one of them. It's just horribly user unfriendly.

I'm sure hoping the group will just come over here to TF which is a much better venue and much easier to operate. And has a bunch of pretty nice folks, too.

Perhaps that will happen after this latest Yahoo policy change.

fgutierrez10 · 11-26-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnma

There is a lot of discussion over on the Yahoo Mainship group. Might be a lot of new TF members coming over. Biggest complaint in the Yahoo group is there is not enough Mainship activity on TF. People are saying that if everyone comes over that will change
John
MS390

Good to see Mainshippers in TF -- I've recently moved to Vero Beach, FL from NJ and I am looking forward to meeting more Mainshippers in the area -- you can reply through this site or contact me directly at home2frank@yahoo.com.

Franklin Gutierrez
Home Too
2006 MS 34T

jleonard · 11-26-2019, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fgutierrez10

Good to see Mainshippers in TF -- I've recently moved to Vero Beach, FL from NJ and I am looking forward to meeting more Mainshippers in the area -- you can reply through this site or contact me directly at home2frank@yahoo.com.

Franklin Gutierrez
Home Too
2006 MS 34T

Hey there Franklin. Remember me?
I live on the west coast of FL 8 months of the year now and on the boat the other 4 months in CT.
Welcome to TF.

BandB · 11-26-2019, 03:16 PM

An earlier question was asked regarding the difficulty in starting a forum, dedicated to Mainship, or anything. Anyone can easily start a forum on 95% of all web site accounts using software very similar to VBulletin but without the cost. However, bringing up the forum is just the start. Then you must find a way to attract people and that's the death of most. You start with 0 posts and a month later you have 2 and no one comes. You also have to deal with spam and if spammers see an opening, they'll take over your board. That means if you can't watch things constantly, you need moderators to approve and check new members and then follow their initial posts very carefully. It takes a lot of work. Then you must moderate the activity and that's not an easy job. Here, it's difficult but manageable as a history exists. On a new forum, people assume they can say or do anything they want and you must deal with that.

Few brands have been able to get good forums going. Perhaps Hatteras and Sea Ray are good examples but other brands don't have the numbers. Plus, most of what you want to discuss isn't brand related. The boat brand is irrelevant to the vast majority of discussion and on a brand specific site, you have great difficulty getting volume or responses to other questions. That's why most forums have found it best to have general forums and then have sub forums for those questions and discussions only relevant to the brand.

I would suggest to all, strengthen what is already here. If your brand sub forum isn't strong then post more brand specific posts in it and invite more discussion. I also don't find facebook as a good alternative to a forum and with my desire to protect my privacy, not about to go become active in posting on facebook. If privacy is important to you, then that is not the place to go.

fgutierrez10 · 11-26-2019, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jleonard

Hey there Franklin. Remember me?
I live on the west coast of FL 8 months of the year now and on the boat the other 4 months in CT.
Welcome to TF.

Jay - Sounds like an excellent plan, we are also planning next summer in the NE. Send me your email address

jleonard · 11-27-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seevee

There have been quite a few folks discourages with the Yahoo groups forum, and I'm one of them. It's just horribly user unfriendly.

Yes it was always very awkward to say the least.
I was one of the original moderators and in the early days (I think it was 1998 or 99) it was fine as there were only a few members and not too many different model boats.
The original models were a "cult" boat, and there was no one left at Mainship who knew the oldies so that forum was a godsend of sorts.
Joe Weinbrect was the originator, does anyone on here remember him?

I resigned as moderator in around 2006 when I sold my old Mainship and bought the Albin.

I know it "uglied out", but it was a good forum in its early years.

Franklin I sent my contact info to you via a Private Message.
Please reply directly to my e mail once you get it.

BandB · 11-27-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jleonard

Yes it was always very awkward to say the least.
I was one of the original moderators and in the early days (I think it was 1998 or 99) it was fine as there were only a few members and not too many different model boats.
The original models were a "cult" boat, and there was no one left at Mainship who knew the oldies so that forum was a godsend of sorts.
Joe Weinbrect was the originator, does anyone on here remember him?

I resigned as moderator in around 2006 when I sold my old Mainship and bought the Albin.

I know it "uglied out", but it was a good forum in its early years.

Franklin I sent my contact info to you via a Private Message.
Please reply directly to my e mail once you get it.

Everything has it's time and place. Yahoo was once the dominant search engine, the most popular chat rooms and the most popular groups. At that time, the cost of setting up a forum on VBulletin was extremely high and other options not trustworthy. Bulletin boards and Mail Lists were also popular as unwieldy as they were. Then forums became widespread, fairly easy to set up although very challenging to manage. Now, I think sometimes as people move to the next iteration, it's a mistake. Specifically today I think it is those going to facebook in lieu of forums. It doesn't allow the clean groupings of topics. It's not as orderly. It's even less easy to manage and moderate. And, it includes a tremendous sacrifice of privacy. On top of that, as often as people complain here about the ads, here they are organized outside the threads and facebook topics are plagued with advertisements, spam, and phishing. Last, there are schools and businesses using facebook, twitter, instagram and other social media as part of their hiring and admissions. Fortunately, most here are not in need of future jobs but much of what many do post here would haunt them if posted on facebook. Employers would label them negatively and move on.

OldDan1943 · 11-27-2019, 05:48 PM

I do not have a FB nor a twitter account and not interested establishing either, for the stated reasons, lack of security and privacy.

**Bacchus** · 11-27-2019, 06:10 PM

I'm sort of in the same camp as Dan...
I dont see any / enough advantages to switch to social media sites if its tech info you are after. Maybe different if you just want to connect w other owners and chit chat.
I found MS Yahoo before TF but I attempted several times to influence / improve the MS Yahoo site but owner / admin was uninterested / unresponsive.
TF very much the opposite... willing to consider and implement improvements beyond the already available features (pics, organization, workable searching, thread grouping, etc) the Library function is a perfect example of a recent very positive add!
F Book and Tweeter not for me!

Woodland Hills · 11-27-2019, 06:41 PM

I don’t get the whole sub-forum thing since I just hit the new posts button. I don’t really care where the post originated, if I have anything to contribute I will. I suspect others do the same.

**Bacchus** · 11-27-2019, 09:08 PM

You obviously can post any question in any section but it helps e everyone and you are likely to get more & better responses if posted in the "best fit" section.
e.g. Mainship if a generic MS item but if a Yanmar engine ?
Power systems. Many post their early posts in the welcome mat section but few people go there to find technical help. That's the beauty of having TF organized and grouped by topic vs simply sequential posts like Yahoo is / was.

**FlyWright** · 11-27-2019, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodland Hills

I don’t get the whole sub-forum thing since I just hit the new posts button. I don’t really care where the post originated, if I have anything to contribute I will. I suspect others do the same.

Woody, one advantage to the sub-forums is subscribing to the sections that offer the most interest or relevance to your needs. That way you get a notification of a new thread/post to the section so you don't miss the conversations that can get pushed low in the new post list after a day or two.