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Old 01-11-2022, 10:25 AM   #41
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Although the rudder is fixed, I don’t like how the current configuration is set up. I especially don’t like that the rudder is not to spec. The rudder is supposed to be supported top and bottom. I feel that the current configuration puts a lot of undue stress on the rudder flange as force is applied on the rudder by the prop, especially when the rudder is turned and the prop-blast is slamming against it.

I plan to install a lower support as shown in the photo below, but I will do that in a few years as the current fix should last a while.
Absolutely right. The rudder should be supported by a foot and lower bearing. The way my rudder is set up in the pic is a good example of how it should be. I can't believe anyone set that boat's rudder up without the lower support.
Indeed.
Folks, I am looking for ideas for ways to attach the lower arm to the hull.
Please chime in with any ideas you might have.
If you look carefully at this photo here, at the lower left you can see the lower arm was cut off and glassed over sometime in this boats history. I don't know the reason this was done but I suspect it may have been damaged at one time and the owner decided to cut it off rather than repair it (just my speculation!)

My first thought was to fabricate a "U" channel, but the boat has a lot of contours at the end of the keel.
Then I saw another boat at the boatyard (photo is show in my quote above) that has a simple brass bar bolted to the bottom. Is it strong enough? I don't know. Thoughts?

Any ideas to repair/rebuild this arm would be appreciated. The more economical the better.
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Old 01-11-2022, 05:44 PM   #42
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Max, you appear to refer quite often to photos which actually don't appear. The one above is my boats rudder view, but I see no photo relating to how your boat is lacking the foot. What's ahappening..?
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Old 01-11-2022, 07:34 PM   #43
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Max, you appear to refer quite often to photos which actually don't appear. The one above is my boats rudder view, but I see no photo relating to how your boat is lacking the foot. What's ahappening..?
There must be something wrong on your end, mate.
All my photos appear on all my devices (2 computers, 1 tablet and 1 phone)
Also my wife's computer and her phone when she checks my thread on her end as well.

Maybe try another browser? Or try another device and browser(s)?
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Old 01-12-2022, 05:40 AM   #44
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Max... I don't see your photos either. I can see Petes
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:30 AM   #45
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:00 AM   #46
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Looking at these pictures I'm convinced the same guy that owned MY boat also owned YOURS
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Old 01-13-2022, 03:32 PM   #47
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no photos here

no photos for me
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Old 01-13-2022, 03:42 PM   #48
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Old 01-13-2022, 07:04 PM   #49
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In view of the above chorus, and surely we can't all be wrong, it appears there is a glitch with your photo uploads Max. You are clicking on upload after selecting the pics in the advanced setting of 'manage attachments', then closing that window, and going down to underneath the box where your pic files will be listed, and clicking on 'submit' from there..?

It's a bit hard to believe you and your wife are seeing your pics actually on the thread post, when the rest of us are not.
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Max, I do see the pictures you posted earlier in the thread. But when you started referring to pictures of the rudder and shoe specifically I didn't see anything new but scrolled through your earlier pics and found them.

Do you have any closer up pictures of your rudder/shoe area?

Thanks, keep us updated!
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Max, you appear to refer quite often to photos which actually don't appear. The one above is my boats rudder view, but I see no photo relating to how your boat is lacking the foot. What's ahappening..?
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Max... I don't see your photos either. I can see Petes
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OMG. I looked into this some more and you guys are all correct. Many of my photos do not appear on other computers!! All that time and effort to take and share photographs wasted!!

Well everyone, I can't begin to tell you how disappointed I am with these forms.
As I mentioned at the start of this thread, I wasn't sure if I was willing to document this project because of the time and effort it required.
With the missing photos issue, I have discovered that these forms are so limiting in their ability to host photographs, that it really makes me wonder whether it's worthwhile or not.

To make matters worse, these forms also don't allow you to edit your posts after one hour has passed from making a post. Which I think is kind of ridiculous considering it can be done on many of the other forums I am a member of (some also powered by by the same engine as these forums) but if that's what the site owners wish to do that's their decision. Unfortunately it does create a huge limitation on the ability to make amends on posts that could be revised. In my case all the photos that I have been posting do not appear in many cases. It's now impossible for me to edit my post and to re-attach the missing photos. This is hugely annoying and I'm not sure if I even want to consider carrying on with this rebuild thread.

I'm sorry folks but that's just how I feel. It's one thing to be excited to share with others, but it’s very disappointing when forum limitations prevent me from doing so. I’m going to take a break from this and decide if I wish to carry on or not.
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Try opening the picture and save it as a jpeg file if it isn't already.
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Max - once you have found the trick it is not difficult. If I may speak for your fellow forum members: we would much enjoy/appreciate/benefit from seeing your photos. Please don't give up!
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Guys, I've sent him a PM with suggestions as to what to do, and will open up his edit option so he can go in and re-post the relevant photos if he wishes. The 1 hr time out - actually I think it is 2 hrs - is just for general control of the board, so people can't go back in and make changes long after the post goes up.

However, please be advised, that in any specific instance where an edit is desirable, we moderators can either make the simple edit for you, or open up the edit option for that particular post - or posts - for a pre-agreed period of time. Just PM any moderator if you want this option.
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"Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?"
Ahhhh...what would he turn off and on again, alormaria..?
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Kudos Peter. I hope we get to see the pictures. Do we have to start over at post one?
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Kudos Peter. I hope we get to see the pictures. Do we have to start over at post one?
Not sure Soo...he's yet to get back to me about what he wants to do.
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