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Old 11-19-2021, 08:20 PM   #21
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And Bob Smith said the manual was wrong. I would believe him any day over a manual. Unfortunately he has passed away now, but his knowledge was astounding.
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Old 11-19-2021, 09:20 PM   #22
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The Manual for my L120s said 200 hours! Had to post a copy to convince Marin. Compromised @ 100 hours, no problems arose.
That is weird.
I have a Lehman 120 aka 6D380 (which I am guessing is your L120 reference?)

Anyway, here is the manual I am using.



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Old 11-19-2021, 10:18 PM   #23
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My understanding is that there are multiple versions of the manual out there. Bob said to learn the individual engine and change the oil on that schedule.
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Old 11-19-2021, 10:58 PM   #24
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Ha Ha Ha! All these boats have had the same problems! My steering chains were perpetually loose and I found the same problem was the cause: The wooden block holding the pulley had rotted. Actually the two bolts through the wooden block looked like something from the wreck of the Titanic. One had rusted through and the other would in another 10 minutes. All fixed now..... While you have them out replace those two bolts holding the steering chain pulley.
With mine, the bolts were stainless and not rusted, but the wooden block was all soft from the damp conditions in the lazaret over long years, allowing the slow slackening of the block and with it the pulley. I had an alloy replacement made, and then it was through-bolted through the full deck thickness, just to be on the safe side. Having the quite low profile rounded heads of the bolts in the cockpit floor was no problem at all. The chain never slackened after that.
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That is weird.
I have a Lehman 120 aka 6D380 (which I am guessing is your L120 reference?)
Anyway, here is the manual I am using....
Agree it`s weird. Same engine, different edition of the Manual, which had a smiling photo of the late Bob Smith as Lehman VP, providing some "don`t mess with it unless you know what you`re doing" advice.
Boat is sold, Manual went with it. Though my mechanic has my second copy(boat had twins)I lent him.... which he seems quite unable to find .
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I guess youíre looking at different pictures than I am.I have owned three of these boats two aft cabins and one sedan . My favorite Taiwanese trawler is the 34 sedan by far. If you want a boat just to use the last little bit of life left in it then go for it otherwise run!!!
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:21 AM   #27
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Fuel injector pump - I change the oil every 50 hours simply because (a) prevention is preferable to cure, and (b) its so easy to do, even for a mechanical klutz like meÖ.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:51 AM   #28
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I guess youíre looking at different pictures than I am.I have owned three of these boats two aft cabins and one sedan . My favorite Taiwanese trawler is the 34 sedan by far. If you want a boat just to use the last little bit of life left in it then go for it otherwise run!!!
That's a very strange generalist statement to make, Scooby. It would help if you offered some details.
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Agree it`s weird. Same engine, different edition of the Manual, which had a smiling photo of the late Bob Smith as Lehman VP, providing some "don`t mess with it unless you know what you`re doing" advice.
Boat is sold, Manual went with it. Though my mechanic has my second copy(boat had twins)I lent him.... which he seems quite unable to find .
I would love to get my hands on the revised manual. I am still absorbing Big-boat/Lehmans/Trawler knowledge at a phenomenal rate. Need.more.data.

If anyone has one of these revised manuals, please post here or PM me.
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here's more info I got through email. The seller has a fleet of charter boats, that's his line of work, this boat was to be personal for him to do "the loop" (I honestly don't know what that means yet) but he's so busy with work that this boat sitting and costing slip fees is not in his game anymore. It's been maintained as well as his fleet of boats he makes his living with though. here's a copy of the email of more info on it.

Hi Charles,

The 1975 Marine Trader is a very unique boat with a great interior. I've copied some internal notes from the Seller that might give you some better info:

1975 34' Marine Trader Trawler
engine hours (total): 1843
length overall (LOA): 34
make / manufacturer: Marine Trader
model name / number: Double Cabin
propulsion type: power
year manufactured: 1975
Original 120 hp Ford Lehman Diesel with 1843 hours.
Rebuilt original Paragon marine transmission.
New head gasket and headers inspected earlier this year.
Brand new exhaust.
New fuel lines.
Brand new starter.
New fuel tanks.
Shaft just balanced and new couplers.
Lots of spare parts.
Two helms all with new working gauges.
Chain steering.
4 house AGM batteries powered by Solar panels.
Two engine starting batteries.
Receipts for everything.
New marine water heater.
70 gallon stainless water tank.
12 gallon holding tank.
Two new 8' Shakespeare Antenna's.
Older Garmin Chartplotter.
VHF Stereo inside helm.
Bose audio system with Alpine Amp and Subwoofer.
Working TV.
Fridge.
Stove Top.
Two heads, One manual flush, One electric flush.
All sinks and showers operational.
Aft Cabin roof completely redone with brand new marine plywood and finished with nonskid.
No leaks from any windows.
Brand new cushions for interior.
Exterior has non skid on all decks.
Top deck has no furniture and is ready to be built to your specifications!
Teak swim platform.
Two anchors.
Comes with brand new West Marine Inflatable dinghy with 3.5 hp outboard!
Comes with lots of extra teak pieces and parts
1843/46 40.065 hours per year seems like very low hours I would ask for the logs to substantiate the Hours. it could be correct I would just like to see something that supports the claim
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:26 PM   #31
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That's a very strange generalist statement to make, Scooby. It would help if you offered some details.
I donít want to be negative if you like the boat and youíve actually looked at it great .I wouldnít even go look at it and I have owned many Taiwanese trawlers .I would buy them clean them up and flip them when I say many more than 20 I donít remember exactly how many ,Iím not saying that to make myself looks like some kind of expert but I do know a lot about those boats .I think I looked at pictures on the brokers website ,is that the one with the air conditioning hang out on the back window those bolts are just too old for all that plywood coring I could go on for a long time maybe Iím wrong maybe Iím not
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I have 1855 hours on mine. These aren't globe trotters. About 50 hrs a year is normal. One of the reasons they last so long.
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