The dog makes the unannounced boarding worse. I know my dog would not react well to a strange dog suddenly appearing in his space. He wouldn't actually hurt the other dog, but there would certainly be some barking and aggression. I'd be concerned about him ending up hurt or "neutralized" before I could grab him.
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Want to get your boarding done quickly and courteously? "Yes Sir, No Sir."
And the reason they may come up toward your stern as they approach--they can more easily see if people on board are tossing things overboard. I don't know why some get their chests all puffed out and their feathers ruffled over a boarding? Is the boarding a challenge to your manliness? Go with the flow, be polite and nice to them. It doesn't cost you a thing to do that and it will pay big dividends. |
It`s less a question of "Can they do it?" and more a question of "Should they do it?". Seems to me it`s fraught with risk generated by surprise, from gunfight to dogfight.
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Mr. BK. Hardly a surprise on the water while underway or anchored. It's not as if the authorities suddenly appear. IF a proper watch, as mentioned above, is maintained one will most definitely know of their presence in proximity to one's vessel. A nighttime boarding OTOH is a completely different scenario where surprise might lead to potentially deadly consequences. Mr. rs raises a valid point regarding a dog(s). |
CBP surprised us in the wee hours one time. Sitting miles offshore with nav lights off. They pulled to our port side and put a spotlight on their marked hullsides. Then got closer and proceeded with questions from 40 feet away. Just another good reason to run radar.
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So you showed them how important you are for their lack of obiescance to some guy with a green Tshirt that says "Security".
Sometimes I'm a little slow so bear with me. I have one question, why would a guy or gal be wearing a T SHIRT in the WINTER Olympics, and why green? Clearly I missed all the people standing around in the green T shirts. Can you help me out and point out where they were? The security was given amazingly good gear as many of them had to stand around in not great weather. Unfortunately for me and others who worked the venues in the Lower Mainland and not in Whistler, the gear was unbearably warm as during our "winter" olympics, the flowers were blooming. I would have loved to had those green T shirts you mentioned. |
I offered my boat as a training exercise to the local police. The officer thanked me and told me the dogs were too busy doing real searches. LOL
If the USCG wishes to board me, I welcome them for these same people will be the ones who come find me and rescue me if necessary. Not too sure how I would react to a night time announced visit especially at night. |
Scott in your vast experience have you ever known a boarding party to use a flash-bang? The chance of fire is great, at least in houses.
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Irv...no I can't say I have ever heard of a flash bang being used by the USCG...that's because most boardings are routine and the targeted vessels really don't pose a threat The boarding teams are trained to observe what looks routine and what doesn't. State jurisdiction ends at 3 miles.....there may be a few agreements that allow very limited enforcement out further... Probably similar to National waters out to 12...but EEZ out to 200. |
Thanks. We have seen several fires caused by flash bangs, I would imagine on a wood boat it could be a disaster.
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Never been boarded. Seems they have more important tasks.
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I was boarded or had floating boat to boat conversations with CBP, the Washington State fish cops and USGG personnel several times with our prior boat. Every time everyone was respectful and polite, except one fish cop who was yelling at me about fending off their boat to prevent damage to either. The most bizarre stop was from CBP as l was headed into Canada and probably within a mile of the boarder running at 25kn. Flat water, beautiful day, and I hear a beep beep from my starboard stern. This guy was running along side less than two feet from the side of my boat at 25kn! To be fair, I had been keeping an eye on an old bridge deck boat who crossed in front of me, from the port side, causing me to make a slight course correction to avoid a collision. I waved that I would comply and slowed to a stop and explained about the other craft having my attention. I answered the usual and obvious questions and they decided I was harmless.
The last time we were boarded, it was by the USCG, and as they approached the noncom in charge ask if I had and weapons on board. I replied “not yet” and I made a point of looking at his side arm. It took a couple of times until he got it and then I don’t think he knew whether to laugh or try to stay serious. We had a good experience from there. I have the deepest regard for LE and all of our Military and respect the job they do for us. However, anyone who sneaks aboard in the middle of the night is going to hear me yelling for identity. |
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Perhaps having a slow boat with visible overboard recovery equipment would reduce USCG inquiry?
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That is precisely what I did when boarded. We were directed by radio to heave to for a boarding. I immediately reduced speed to stearage way and asked for further instructions. I was told to go to idle speed on autopilot. I also informed the CG that they would find a shotgun on the bed in the owner's cabin. They were welcomed aboard with politeness and cooperation. I answered all of their questions. All went well.
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