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CaptainK 05-29-2019 07:38 PM

Trading 60-Foot Sailing Cat for a Trawler
 
My wife and I are relatively new to the boat owners club, with our amazing 60-foot sailing catamaran. We are just wrapping up another big upgrade to the boat, installing 4 thrusters, and started to think about "what's next".

We really wanted to try how we'd like owning a sailboat, but now we think that a trawler may be better for us.

There have been a few people who told us to "just trade with someone who wants a catamaran". We kind of dismissed these comments, but I thought I'd post here and see what you all think.

PS: We have a 2006 Fountaine Pajot Eleuthera 60, with a full refit in 2015 (new engines, electronics, generator, 1200 gallon watermaker...). In the last 8 months, we've added lithium-ion batteries, 1400-watts of solar, and a 4-pump thruster system. -- Looking for a 55-60 foot trawler with a long range.

RT Firefly 05-29-2019 07:44 PM

Greetings,
Welcome aboard.

CaptainK 05-29-2019 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT Firefly (Post 769837)
Greetings,
Welcome aboard.

Thank you for the welcome :)

I'm sure we'll be in a trawler within 12 months or so - so I'll make sure to be on here going forward.

cardude01 05-29-2019 07:56 PM

Trading 60-Foot Sailing Cat for a Trawler
 
Welcome!

So why didnít you like the sailing cat? Whatís the reason for 4 thrusters ?

Iíll trade you my boat, but itís only 40í, and only one thruster. But itís a ďtrawlerĒ WITH a sail! Best of both worlds! [emoji51]

https://youtu.be/UmtqwJTUwPY

CaptainK 05-29-2019 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardude01 (Post 769841)
Welcome!

So why didnít you like the sailing cat?

Whatís the reason for 4 thrusters ?

4 thrusters... just to make it easier for us to get into marinas and tight spots. We had thought about doing 2 tunnel thrusters, but ended up going with a 4-pump jet system instead.

We only have 230 gallons of fuel... and we end up motoring most of the time. The mast height has been an issue, trying to follow our trawler friends to some places... and it's hard to run a sailboat alone at night (my wife can never sleep while we're underway at night -- worried about me being on deck... etc.).

cardude01 05-29-2019 08:29 PM

Understand. Thatís a lot of boat to single hand at night if things go sideways.

Good luck with the trawler search!

O C Diver 05-29-2019 08:37 PM

My guess, and it's just a guess, is that the size and value of your boat will likely preclude a trade unless it decidedly favors the trawler owner. Selling it through a broker will likely get you more money even after the commission. Secondly, if you're interested in a trawler of similar size, you will likely want to pick what you want as opposed to settling for a boat somebody else wants to get rid of.

Ted

Simi 60 05-29-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainK (Post 769836)
My wife and I are relatively new to the boat owners club, with our amazing 60-foot sailing catamaran. We are just wrapping up another big upgrade to the boat, installing 4 thrusters, and started to think about "what's next".

We really wanted to try how we'd like owning a sailboat, but now we think that a trawler may be better for us.

There have been a few people who told us to "just trade with someone who wants a catamaran". We kind of dismissed these comments, but I thought I'd post here and see what you all think.

PS: We have a 2006 Fountaine Pajot Eleuthera 60, with a full refit in 2015 (new engines, electronics, generator, 1200 gallon watermaker...). In the last 8 months, we've added lithium-ion batteries, 1400-watts of solar, and a 4-pump thruster system. -- Looking for a 55-60 foot trawler with a long range.

I'll swap you.
60 ft trawler with 3500+ - nm range.

cardude01 05-29-2019 08:47 PM

Trading 60-Foot Sailing Cat for a Trawler
 
Sorry Simi, heís seen the video of my boat now and Iím pretty sure heís smitten. [emoji30]

Comodave 05-29-2019 09:03 PM

Welcome aboard.

twistedtree 05-30-2019 06:04 AM

Although Simi appears to be one of them, I would guess there are maybe 3 people in the world who would want to move from a trawler to a sailing cat, and that's who you need to find for a trade. On the other hand, there are lots of mono hull sailors looking to move to cats, and lots of trawlers for sale. They are just different people. So selling the cat and buying a trawler seems a much more likely path to what you want.

South of Heaven 05-30-2019 06:30 AM

Any pics of this beast Captain??

CaptainK 05-30-2019 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardude01 (Post 769841)
Welcome!

So why didnít you like the sailing cat? Whatís the reason for 4 thrusters ?

Iíll trade you my boat, but itís only 40í, and only one thruster. But itís a ďtrawlerĒ WITH a sail! Best of both worlds! [emoji51]

https://youtu.be/UmtqwJTUwPY

Quote:

Originally Posted by South of Heaven (Post 769926)
Any pics of this beast Captain??

Sure... here are a few.

https://explorking.com/wp-content/up...029_web_sm.jpg

https://explorking.com/wp-content/up...G_2118-HDR.jpg

https://explorking.com/wp-content/up...2-_MG_2057.jpg

South of Heaven 05-30-2019 11:45 AM

Ooohhh!! Looks amazing. Can't you use the engines and run her like a trawler?

O C Diver 05-30-2019 11:54 AM

It's a shame you don't have more fuel capacity, removing the mast and all the sail related stuff would seem a simple solution otherwise.

Ted

Sea Word 05-31-2019 01:22 AM

Tough to add fuel to a cat though, they don’t like extra weight as I understand. Although if you swapped from lead to lipo batts, and ditched the sail gear that could free up enough weight to fit the needed fuel.

High Wire 06-02-2019 12:30 PM

There’s a cat up here in NJ that stores his sailing mast in Florida and installs a 20 ft mast for summer ICW power cruising.
Out of the box thinking.
230 gallons will go a long way. Stop for fuel once a week not too bad.

silentfaith 06-07-2019 03:50 PM

You should join the Kadey Krogen and Nordhaven owners groups and post, although many there were cat owners prior.

Bryant 06-07-2019 04:44 PM

Cat for trawler
 
It seems like with a boat that size and that comfortable there would be a way to increase the fuel capacity, remove the mast and rigging to storage (for future sale) and convert to a power cat. I would think the cost would be minimal compared to selling, paying commission and rebuying a trawler. Not to mention, you would have the use of a boat much more quickly as the time involved in selling a 60 foot cat then finding a suitable trawler replacement then doing upgrades and maintenance on that would be considerable. Plus, youíd wind up with a boat you already know instead of an unknown quantity.
Just brainstorming here.

Simi 60 06-07-2019 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedtree (Post 769919)
Although Simi appears to be one of them, I would guess there are maybe 3 people in the world who would want to move from a trawler to a sailing cat, and that's who you need to find for a trade..

Don't let appearance fool you, it was purely a straight swap proposition. ;)
Then I could sell the big cat, buy our sister ship and still have $400k in the skyrocket.:thumb:


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