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Dave_E 07-19-2017 09:42 AM

The Adventure Begins
 
Hi All,

I have posted a couple times here, just in an inquisitive nature, but now things are serious. My wife and I looked at a 1977 Eagle 36 last weekend and we both fell in love with it. Interior is IMMACULATE. Did I mention the interior was really pristine? The outside wood isn't bad either, i.e. no peeling, discoloration etc.. Needs a top side buff and wax.

I'm going to look at it again, the broker is going to start it up and let me flip switches and the like. I was a marine mechanic in my younger years, had my own business, but it was all small stuff, outboards, IO's and the like. For the past 4 years I have become a sailboat rigger/mechanic (because we own a 32' sailboat). So, not having actually touched or worked on something as big as this beast, any and all information you can share with me for my next "viewing" would be appreciated. Just the quick, important stuff that would help me with the first purchase "offer". Thanks!

Dave

RT Firefly 07-19-2017 09:47 AM

Greetings,
Welcome aboard if I neglected an earlier salutation.

Dave_E 07-21-2017 09:35 AM

My survey today
 
Hi All,

The adventure really starts today. I take my flashlight, mirror and notepad to the boat (along with my laser temp gun) to have an good look. I've learned so much from this forum, I thank you all for sharing. The engine is obvious, but from what I read unless a Lehman is downright neglected, it will be around for awhile. The boat has been in a boat house for the past who knows how many years, so right now it's dry... :ermm: but I hope I access enough to see the FUEL TANKS!!!

Let you know how it goes. - Dave

dimer2 07-21-2017 10:28 AM

Good luck...keep us posted!

DavidM 07-21-2017 12:40 PM

That boat is at a very good price point, but a bad engine can kill any economies. And even Lehman's can have problems. So do a mini survey while you are onboard.

The engine should start right up with only a few seconds of cranking. After it starts a bit of white smoke is ok but should settle down after it warms up. A big cloud of smoke after an extended cranking period is a pretty good indicator of a worn engine.

Check fluids before and after running. Check for water in oil and oil in coolant.

If you go out on the water, run the engine up to wot and watch temp gauge for overheating. WOT rpm should be at least 2,400.

Those are the basics and should give you some confidence that you have a good engine if they all check out ok.

David

Comodave 07-21-2017 01:24 PM

Good luck. We have 2 SP225 Ford Lehman's. Love them.

Dave_E 07-23-2017 10:56 PM

offer accepted
 
Hi All,

Well Friday went very well... darn near. Most importantly, inspected the fuel tanks which are directly amidship, aft of the engine and trans. They are side to side, so they meet at the ship centerline. NO RUST anywhere, no evidence of someone trying to clean them off. Just many years of dirt. They also have 2 8" inspection plates each. Not the prettiest engine room in the world, no pretty white boards with valves and plumbing, but it's all there.

So I'm checking out the engine... started right up, no blue exhaust, or white exhaust, warmed up ok, all seemed good... until I saw the dates on the oil filters and the fuel filters. Several years old. :facepalm:

I made an offer and then later that day recinded the offer until a complete engine serving was performed at the owners expense. Thought that was the end of the deal, wife and I were pretty bumbed. We've been looking at trawlers for over 2 years and never came close to the condition of this boat.

Saturday our broker called and said the owner was paying for a complete engine service to include the Raycores. THEN, he went up a little from my offer, and we accepted. So... this week while we're in Bend Oregon on vacation with family, a full service is being done. After that, we are planning the haul out, pressure wash, survey and sea trial. :)

Dave

siestakey 07-23-2017 11:32 PM

Keep us updated and of course pictures

Drake 07-23-2017 11:59 PM

Congratulations. Study that engine survey carefully. Then the fun begins.

Crusty Chief 07-24-2017 12:41 AM

Dave,

Have you got a a survey team yet? And where is the boat? Maybe I missed that.

We dock our boat in Portland at Salpare Bay but wont be back until October.

If we can help any, PM me.

Cheers!

Marlinmike 07-24-2017 08:53 AM

Interesting demanding a servicing, I too would have thought the owner would tell you to walk...

Drake 07-24-2017 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marlinmike (Post 576127)
Interesting demanding a servicing, I too would have thought the owner would tell you to walk...

Why? An engine survey is a good idea, and who pays for it is just a negotiating issue. For example, it sounds like in this case the seller said he would do the survey if the buyer woukd increase the price. Seems to me like everyone was reasonable.

Dave_E 07-24-2017 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 576139)
Why? An engine survey is a good idea, and who pays for it is just a negotiating issue. For example, it sounds like in this case the seller said he would do the survey if the buyer woukd increase the price. Seems to me like everyone was reasonable.

My wife and I were very happy with the results of our negotiations. Sure, I could have taken it and did the service myself... but the broker hired a desiel company to do the service (the owner is paying for it). It's all relative, but I might take over a boat with no time on the service, one less thing to worry about for the rest of this season. :)

The owners increase over my offer was a no brained for us. We went in at 80%, he went up another 5.

Dave

Marlinmike 07-24-2017 09:47 AM

Must be the way I type, I never said not to get an engine survey.

This is from the original OP: "until I saw the dates on the oil filters and the fuel filters. Several years old"

First not really sure what several years old, but making a owner service before even committing to buying is just unusual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 576139)
Why? An engine survey is a good idea, and who pays for it is just a negotiating issue. For example, it sounds like in this case the seller said he would do the survey if the buyer woukd increase the price. Seems to me like everyone was reasonable.


dhays 07-24-2017 09:57 AM

Dave, good luck with the survey and the purchase.

BandB 07-24-2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_E (Post 576146)
My wife and I were very happy with the results of our negotiations. Sure, I could have taken it and did the service myself... but the broker hired a desiel company to do the service (the owner is paying for it). It's all relative, but I might take over a boat with no time on the service, one less thing to worry about for the rest of this season. :)

The owners increase over my offer was a no brained for us. We went in at 80%, he went up another 5.

Dave

Are you talking engine service or engine survey or both? You seem to be using the words interchangeably and have confused me.

Dave_E 07-24-2017 12:08 PM

spelling
 
diesel :blush: I ought to know how to spell that.

Dave_E 07-24-2017 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BandB (Post 576174)
Are you talking engine service or engine survey or both? You seem to be using the words interchangeably and have confused me.

Just an engine service. Sorry for the confusion. The PO hasn't used the boat in some time on the water, just visited it in the boat house.

Fredp 07-24-2017 01:26 PM

Is it the green Eagle on C dock?

Fred P...........

Dave_E 07-24-2017 02:06 PM

The Adventure Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredp (Post 576215)
Is it the green Eagle on C dock?



Fred P...........



Hi Fred,

We're in Shelter Bay. The Eagle we're looking at is a Taiwanese, it's up in Bellingham and it's got blue trim.


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