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lgbert 09-04-2013 04:44 PM

Haul out advice
 
OZ will be on the hard for at least 60 days, maybe longer. Getting some needed work done, refinish the bottom ect.
This will be my first haul out and I want to make sure I do all was is needed before I leave her. I know the obvious such as removing food, any thing of value, closed the seacock, but what else.
Thanks in advance for input
Bert

OFB 09-04-2013 05:09 PM

Try to leave things like the fridge open. Let air under the bedding , open up locker doors, etc. Let closed up spaces breath !

Also rain can be an issue if it can get into the hull with no way to drain out.

Random thoughts

Bay Pelican 09-04-2013 05:28 PM

Bilge pump should stay on. Ask whether you need a dehumidifier or dehumidification crystals in your area.

Gone for sixty days you may need to charge the batteries. Usually the yard will be willing to do that for an eight hour period in the middle of the stay.

Marty

Underway 09-04-2013 05:33 PM

We store inside every winter. Battery maintenance is my main concern. I also put plastic bags over the intake and exhaust. Holding tank pump out (if applicable). I'd cover the horizontal external surfaces with plastic if you're sanding or blasting old bottom paint. That paint dust...especially from ablative paint, makes a mess in the gelcoat or wax. Change zincs while it's out. Check cutless bearings. Replace propshaft and rudder packing (if appropriate). Try to park it where there's water and electrical power handy. I had the yard crew block it extra high when I redid the bottom (outside) as it facilitated access and I had planned to pull the shafts to replace cutless bearings.

Marin 09-04-2013 07:54 PM

(Bert-- PMd our prep)

gwkiwi 09-04-2013 07:57 PM

I am hauling next week for a stabilizer service and have hauled many times not always without incident, depending on your vessel make sure you know where the slings should be located.

Also double check with your insurance that your policy will kick in if damages occurs and the yard bawks on paying.

Many times new vessel being shipped have two policies, one for the transit and a second for the crane load / unload.

Also be on board and dont be afraid to stop the lift procedure if you are unsure on how things are proceeding, remember you are the one writing the check.

markpierce 09-04-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gwkiwi (Post 177427)
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Also be on board and dont be afraid to stop the lift procedure if you are unsure on how things are proceeding, remember you are the one writing the check.

That's not allowed in the SF Bay Area (riding on a crane-lifted boat). It's apparently OK in China, however.

Chinese style:

https://www.trawlerforum.com/attachme...71fea8ed92.jpg

SF Bay Area style:

https://www.trawlerforum.com/attachme...3452201044.jpg

FF 09-05-2013 06:22 AM

Rent or borrow an RV that you can use as home base , at the marina, IF you are doing the work.

No commute , and living aboard a boat out of the water SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jwnall 09-05-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FF (Post 177496)
living aboard a boat out of the water SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen. I've done it, and it really does!

John

Phil Fill 09-05-2013 09:24 AM

We do nothing with the boat when we haul as we ask/make sure we have AC power. Weather its at the dock or hauled its exactly the same. During that time my wife usually leaves as she does not like climbing the ladder and I sleep on the boat. So ask for AC power.

FF 09-05-2013 01:55 PM

>Weather its at the dock or hauled its exactly the same<

Most boat yards get grumpy when dish washing , and shower water gets dumped under the boat.

Rambler 09-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FF (Post 177593)
>Weather its at the dock or hauled its exactly the same<

Most boat yards get grumpy when dish washing , and shower water gets dumped under the boat.

You're making pretty big assumptions about his dish washing and bathing habits. :angel:

jwnall 09-05-2013 03:18 PM

My own experience with staying on the boat while it is on the hard (three times . . . once in Apalachicola, Florida, once in Masonboro, N.C., and once in Jacksonville, Fl) is that you sleep there and nothing else. You leave early, and arrive late. The boatyard people do not want you on it during the day. So you eat out, and find something constructive to do during the day. It is kind of a last resort, but sometimes is the only solution. I might mention that the dog loved it. She got a really long walk, several times a day.

John

CPseudonym 09-05-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lgbert (Post 177404)
OZ will be on the hard for at least 60 days, maybe longer. Getting some needed work done, refinish the bottom ect.
This will be my first haul out and I want to make sure I do all was is needed before I leave her. I know the obvious such as removing food, any thing of value, closed the seacock, but what else.
Thanks in advance for input
Bert

Bert my only caution is regarding project creep. It's kinda like thread creep the only difference is it costs ya money. Have the parameters for the scope of work clearly defined before you haul. Especially on a 60 day haul the good idea fairy has a habit of showing up and starts whispering things along the lines of "as long as you're hauled out anyway why don't you just_______?"

Project creep can get out of hand in a hurry.

Bay Pelican 09-05-2013 04:22 PM

Must be a difference in the budget level of the current cruisers in the US. When we were in the US we stayed on the boat on the hard a number of times. Not great but we saved the cost of a hotel. In the Caribbean, we have been in yards with a dozen cruisers on the hard. But then I have never been in a yard which complained about gray water being dumped. Another factor for us is that we do not have water cooled refrigeration. A real problem for sailboaters.

In Noank we even ran our washing machine although we had the water dumped into a dock cart and wheeled it 50 feet to the ocean.

Admittedly there are projects which are too large (read too much of the boat uninhabitable) to stay on the hard in which case we try and find an apartment. Did this when we added stabilizers and when we replaced the fuel tanks.

Marty

Steve 09-08-2013 07:47 PM

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That's not allowed in the SF Bay Area (riding on a crane-lifted boat). It's apparently OK in China, however.

Chinese style:

https://www.trawlerforum.com/attachme...71fea8ed92.jpg

SF Bay Area style:

https://www.trawlerforum.com/attachme...3452201044.jpg

Rmemeber: See the guy in the transom door, hanging on for dear life

SaltyDog 09-08-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CPseudonym (Post 177621)
Bert my only caution is regarding project creep. It's kinda like thread creep the only difference is it costs ya money. Have the parameters for the scope of work clearly defined before you haul. Especially on a 60 day haul the good idea fairy has a habit of showing up and starts whispering things along the lines of "as long as you're hauled out anyway why don't you just_______?"

Project creep can get out of hand in a hurry.

I can vouch for that.

Remember that the better the projects take off the more likely you will add to the list.

Ocean Breeze NL 09-08-2013 09:10 PM

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My haul-out was a little different this year and will be from now on and it will not at the marina. I picked up a lowboy trailer and with a little welding to make it fit a cradle, I then pulled it up at the house.

CPseudonym 09-08-2013 10:10 PM

Nice job Elwin :thumb:

A trailer is definitely in my boats future too.

Edelweiss 09-08-2013 10:52 PM

A lot more boats are going on the hard during the off season in Puget Sound this year. Not only way cheaper than moorage, but probably better for boat maintenance. For snowbird tenants less to worry about while they're gone for the winter. Some are encapsulated in plastic. They also just built a dry moorage facility very close to our marina.
Cap Santa Marina is offering all permanent tenants a moorage rate reduction if you will sign a one year contract with them (This is in addition to the normal tenant contract.) In another month, the marina will be half empty. I think they are hurting big time. They kept raising the rents until they were on par with Seattle moorage rates and they don't see a problem with that?? :whistling:


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