Comments on accuracy:article

[leeman]

Just read this article from the Guardian. What's the real story and, if true, what is the Canadian government thinking?

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...wl-for-polluted-waste-alaska-british-columbia

 

[psneeld]

The article claims discharge of bilge water.

Somehow I think that is illegal even in Canada.

Not sure of the accurate source of info....

 

[leeman]

More:

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ers-clean-the-air-while-contaminating-the-sea

 

[SteveK]

IF they are outside of the 12 mile zone, they can discharge

 

[sbu22]

It's not just a Canadian problem or a new problem.

30 years ago I was working with Ixtapa and Zihuatanejo on water quality issues. Cruise ships were just starting to be a "thing" down there. Beautiful area, but lots of the landside trashed (literally - trash). The ships would pump bilges, grey, and black water a mile or so offshore and totally screw the water quality. Crying shame.

 

[leeman]

Surely, as an intelligent race, we can learn from our mistakes. I cringe at the thought of all this crap being dumped into our waters.

At the same time we are wondering where/why our salmon and orcas and so-on have gone.

Every Canadian and every resident on this planet should be mad.

Rant over...

 

[Simi 60]

The " Magic Pipe" strikes again

http://www.mastermariners.org.au/ne...ises-given-record-fine-for-dumping-oil-at-sea

 

[SoWhat]

Slow news day. This has been going on ever since there were cruise ships.

 

[Comodave]

The " Magic Pipe" strikes again

The $40m 'magic pipe': Princess Cruises given record fine for dumping oil at sea

Drop in the bucket. A $40M fine is nothing compared to what they saved by breaking the law. And the company is disappointed that their employees are breaking the law, like they didn’t know.

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
As per the article "...single illegal discharge dumped 4,227 gallons of oil-contaminated waste..." Even multiplied a thousand times, not significant to the 8 million tons (and increasing) of plastic that end up in our oceans every year.


NOT trying to minimize the cruise ship dumping OR the application of fines but things should be brought into perspective. First world countries still ship their plastic waste offshore to "recycling" facilities in the third world where only the big $, easily recyclable plastics are used and the rest being relegated to local landfill and ultimately end up in the gut of some poor marine organism.


As mentioned by Mr. C, that $40M is simply the cost of doing business for the cruise line.

 

[soin2la]

IF they are outside of the 12 mile zone, they can discharge

Three miles.

 

[psneeld]

Depends on what they are "discharging" and whether the country flag of the vessel is a signatory to MARPOL agreements.

 

[soin2la]

Depends on what they are "discharging" and whether the country flag of the vessel is a signatory to MARPOL agreements.

Yes, of course, but for the purposes of this discussion, i.e. cruise shipshit Canada allows three miles from shore, which in itself is ridiculous, given some of the passages they travel in BC waters.

 

[tiltrider1]

The article is from a spin news source. Is there a grain of truth? Yes. Is it spun up to make the situation look dire? Yes. Is anything illegal happening? No. Is Canada being abused by the USA? No. There are far more Vancouver bound freighters dumping far more in US waters.

Can we do better? Yes, but it needs to be on a Global Level, not an attack on 5 cruise ships in the NW.

 

[psneeld]

Yes, of course, but for the purposes of this discussion, i.e. cruise shipshit Canada allows three miles from shore, which in itself is ridiculous, given some of the passages they travel in BC waters.

I am not sure who is talking about what discharge...sewage, bilge waters, scrubber mix, etc.?????..... reading back to the OP and the links posted.