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Baker

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Posts: 1517 Date: July 29th
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| It is a good thing those engines do not think of you the way you do of them!!!!!....  __________________ John Baker-Moderator 2004 30' Mainship Pilot II..."Flyin' Low" Kemah, Texas |
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Marin

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Posts: 2216 Date: July 29th
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| They're just bunches of metal. Same as a boat is just a bunch of fiberglass (or wood or steel or....) No soul anywhere I can see. They're either good, bad, or indifferent. They either do the job or they don't. "Feelings" have nothing to do with it in my book.
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Baker

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Posts: 1517 Date: July 30th
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| Just a joke!!!
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Jim Spence

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Posts: 162 Date: July 30th
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| Superdiver, It is illegal to dump untreated waste from any type of head, manual or electric. In some places such as the Florida Keys it is illegal to dump any type of waste, treated or not. That is why we have one head with an Electra Scan which treats waste and the other head has a holding tank. When we are in the keys we only use the forward head (with a holding tank). The fuse is pulled for the aft head and the discharge valve closed.
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Peter B

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Posts: 354 Date: July 30th
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| Marin wrote:
All we need a toilet to do is make the stuff we don't want inside the boat go somewhere else. Since the toilets that came with the boat do a terrific job of this, it makes no sense to us whatsoever to change them out for something else that will also do a terrific job of doing the same thing but won't do it any better..............................if our boat didn't have any toilets, or if the ones it has failed, or if we were speccing out a new boat, then we'd go for a modern toilet although the "keep it simple and totally reliable" caveat would still stand.
Exactly Marin, the case rests.......... __________________ Peter B 'Lotus' - Clipper (CHB) 34 Brisbane, Australia |
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BaltimoreLurker

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Posts: 456 Date: July 30th
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| Marin wrote:
They're just bunches of metal. Same as a boat is just a bunch of fiberglass (or wood or steel or....) No soul anywhere I can see. They're either good, bad, or indifferent. They either do the job or they don't. "Feelings" have nothing to do with it in my book.
Marin - your boat has no soul? How depressing.  |
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Marin

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Posts: 2216 Date: July 30th
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| If somebody can explain to me how something made of inert materials that started life as either iron ore or bauxite in the ground, or as silicone and petrochemicals has a soul I'd love to hear it.
A boat, car, plane, washing machine is just that--- a machine. It's made to do a job and when it can't anymore you replace it. I can understand getting attached to a machine because it does a good job or is fun to drive or whatever. I do that myself. But to go the extra step and give it a "personality"--- sorry, I just don't get that.
This whole "boat has a soul" thing is just people "Walt Disney-ing" an inanimate object. What's the scientific term--- anthropormorphize, I think.
I'm not saying don't take care of a boat, car, engine, washing machine, etc. That's just common sense. The better a machine is operated and maintained, the better service it will give until it wears out or becomes obsolete at which point you replace it.
But to think of it as a "human" with feelings and a soul? That's just silly in my view.
The obvious question is, "Why'd you name your boat then, if you don't think it has a soul?" We named our boat because we had to for communication and documentation purposes. And since we had to come up with a name we settled on one that meant something to us. But it's got nothing to do with the boat itself. I'd have been fine with calling our boat "Boat Number Two" (since we already had "Boat Number One") but it was more fun coming up with a name that we could relate to plus is easier to say. But we relate the name to us, not to the boat other than it's what we call it on the radio and in the documentation papers.
Actually we never use the name of our boat in conversation. We just call it "the big boat" because the other boat is "the small boat."
-- Edited by Marin on Friday 30th of July 2010 01:59:04 PM
__________________ C. Marin Faure "La Pérouse" 1973 GB36-403 (grp) Bellingham, WA |
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Marin

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Posts: 2216 Date: July 30th
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| Peter B wrote:
Marin wrote:
if our boat didn't have any toilets, or if the ones it has failed, or if we were speccing out a new boat, then we'd go for a modern toilet although the "keep it simple and totally reliable" caveat would still stand.
Exactly Marin, the case rests..........
I probably should have added at the end of the last sentence"...which would most likely rule out an electric or vacuum toilet if there is a good, strong, simple manual toilet on the market today."  __________________ C. Marin Faure "La Pérouse" 1973 GB36-403 (grp) Bellingham, WA |
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Peter B

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Posts: 354 Date: July 31st
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| Marin, no offense because it's funny, and I'm sure you're a great guy, but sometimes after one of your posts, the image forms in front of my eyes of that well-known cartoon of the frog, sticking out of the beak of the crane trying to swallow it, and the frog has its fingers tightly gripped round the crane's throat, and the caption reads...........?
Anybody.....?
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Baker

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Posts: 1517 Date: August 1st
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| C'mon Peter...don't leave us hangin'!!!!
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