NauticalKiwi
Newbie
Hi all,
As you can tell this is my first post here and I'm looking forward to learning and gaining insight from you knowledgeable group of individuals Please excuse the long post!
My partner and I are considering an OE via boat in the coming years. While we've both been around boats our whole lives (we're still reasonably young so that isn't majorly long haha), passage-making and deep water is quite new to us and we hope to learn from boating courses and knowledgeable folk such as yourselves as we get more into it.
We live in New Zealand, a relatively little island in the corner of the world. Our plan is to make our way to Sydney via Lord Howe Island and then cruise along the coast and up into Indonesia and further on.
However before we get that far we need to consider the Tasman sea and what would be appropriate to cross in. I understand the Tasman can be quite rough, and as someone on another forum said if you cross the Tasman and don't get into a storm you'll be having one on the way back haha.
Looking at our options, we would like to purchase a new powerboat to do this trip. I understand Nordhavn and Kady Krogen are the go-tos for such journeys however there are several reasons we would prefer a different option, one of which being the speeds of full-displacement are obviously limited to predominately single digits.
While looking at options we came across the Azimut Magellano series. Specifically, the Magellano 53. Azimut is mostly known for their cruisers for coastal stuff, however, (according to their spiel) the Magellano line is intended for "offshore" work. With a supposedly "un-slammable" semi-hull (taking this with a grain of salt) among other features, they seem to be designed to take on at least more than the majority of cruisers while delivering an alright 5.5GPH at 8 knots (1,100 miles), 2.4GPH at 6.6 knots (2,100 miles) and the potential for 24 knots when range isn't an issue.
Details and reviews here:
https://www.azimutyachts.com/azimutmagellano53.html
https://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/boat-tests/azimut-magellano-53
The interiors are gorgeous and feature all the ameneties and niceties one would expect. That's ticks that box, but I'm more concerned about rough weather handling. It's CE A-category rated (over Beaufort 8 and over 4m swells) but seas don't always fall nicely into a category and despite planning and going at the best times possible, when you're halfway across the Tasman with a sudden storm coming up with 8m swells you've got not much choice but to ride it out.
We've fallen in love with this yacht and would plan and equip meticulously with professional training, safety equipment (liferafts, EPIRB, survival suits if need be) and would be spec'ing it with a Seakeeper stabiliser. We don't want to be naiive boaties who plow off into the distance in a Bayliner. However in your honest opinions, would such a vessel be capable of taking on the Tasman? From there onwards it'll be majority small hops to different countries' coastlines and running the coasts from there which doing at 6 knots wouldn't be our cup of tea which is why a dual-purpose yacht such as the Magellano is so appealing.
My primary areas of concern are:
- Stability of semi-displacement hulls (with and without a Seakeeper)
- What risk if any of being pitchpoled in large seas
- Waves over the bow / structural strength
- What sort of swells could a 16m boat such as this handle
- The vessel being able to handle the potential rogue wave (not a massive Hollywood wall of water, but the textbook definition of 2 times significant wave height) which do make occurrences and have caused others crossing the Tasman to come unstuck with severe consequences.
I understand KK and Nordhavn would be the go-to, however even Nordhavn have a small 41 they've circumnavigated with and a 59 semi hull with others doing the journey in small sailboats. Is full displacement the only option for ocean-going or would the Magellano be capable of such journeys?
Thank you in advance and I look forward to your inputs
As you can tell this is my first post here and I'm looking forward to learning and gaining insight from you knowledgeable group of individuals Please excuse the long post!
My partner and I are considering an OE via boat in the coming years. While we've both been around boats our whole lives (we're still reasonably young so that isn't majorly long haha), passage-making and deep water is quite new to us and we hope to learn from boating courses and knowledgeable folk such as yourselves as we get more into it.
We live in New Zealand, a relatively little island in the corner of the world. Our plan is to make our way to Sydney via Lord Howe Island and then cruise along the coast and up into Indonesia and further on.
However before we get that far we need to consider the Tasman sea and what would be appropriate to cross in. I understand the Tasman can be quite rough, and as someone on another forum said if you cross the Tasman and don't get into a storm you'll be having one on the way back haha.
Looking at our options, we would like to purchase a new powerboat to do this trip. I understand Nordhavn and Kady Krogen are the go-tos for such journeys however there are several reasons we would prefer a different option, one of which being the speeds of full-displacement are obviously limited to predominately single digits.
While looking at options we came across the Azimut Magellano series. Specifically, the Magellano 53. Azimut is mostly known for their cruisers for coastal stuff, however, (according to their spiel) the Magellano line is intended for "offshore" work. With a supposedly "un-slammable" semi-hull (taking this with a grain of salt) among other features, they seem to be designed to take on at least more than the majority of cruisers while delivering an alright 5.5GPH at 8 knots (1,100 miles), 2.4GPH at 6.6 knots (2,100 miles) and the potential for 24 knots when range isn't an issue.
Details and reviews here:
https://www.azimutyachts.com/azimutmagellano53.html
https://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/boat-tests/azimut-magellano-53
The interiors are gorgeous and feature all the ameneties and niceties one would expect. That's ticks that box, but I'm more concerned about rough weather handling. It's CE A-category rated (over Beaufort 8 and over 4m swells) but seas don't always fall nicely into a category and despite planning and going at the best times possible, when you're halfway across the Tasman with a sudden storm coming up with 8m swells you've got not much choice but to ride it out.
We've fallen in love with this yacht and would plan and equip meticulously with professional training, safety equipment (liferafts, EPIRB, survival suits if need be) and would be spec'ing it with a Seakeeper stabiliser. We don't want to be naiive boaties who plow off into the distance in a Bayliner. However in your honest opinions, would such a vessel be capable of taking on the Tasman? From there onwards it'll be majority small hops to different countries' coastlines and running the coasts from there which doing at 6 knots wouldn't be our cup of tea which is why a dual-purpose yacht such as the Magellano is so appealing.
My primary areas of concern are:
- Stability of semi-displacement hulls (with and without a Seakeeper)
- What risk if any of being pitchpoled in large seas
- Waves over the bow / structural strength
- What sort of swells could a 16m boat such as this handle
- The vessel being able to handle the potential rogue wave (not a massive Hollywood wall of water, but the textbook definition of 2 times significant wave height) which do make occurrences and have caused others crossing the Tasman to come unstuck with severe consequences.
I understand KK and Nordhavn would be the go-to, however even Nordhavn have a small 41 they've circumnavigated with and a 59 semi hull with others doing the journey in small sailboats. Is full displacement the only option for ocean-going or would the Magellano be capable of such journeys?
Thank you in advance and I look forward to your inputs