stevemitchell
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- Vessel Name
- Aruna
- Vessel Make
- Kristen Yachts 50 Pilot House
My new-to-me boat came with a Webasto Air Top 5000 heater that seemed to be in good condition. I struggled with ducting for the first month, which had only been put together with tape, not clamps, but the heater itself ran for many hours keeping me warm.
I decided to replace the existing thermostat as it was mechanical, not digital, and boxed into a nice little teak box, blocking most of the air going to it. As a result, we would have 15-20 degree swings between heat cycles - not ideal.
Sure Marine sold me a SC1600B digital thermostat which I installed yesterday, and the heater no longer works. All that happens now is when I power things up, and then turn the thermostat to heat, the LED briefly flashes and goes out. Nothing else happens, no fans, no pump noises, etc.
Putting the old thermostat back results in the same problem, the heater no longer turns on, but the light flashes briefly when told to heat.
There are three wires going to the thermostat - red, black and white. The red and black are 12V +/- respectively, and the white is the thermostat "on" wire. They go back through the wall to a big connector that looks like it was meant to plug into the big digital thermostat with timer that was available for this model when it was new.
The black and red wires go to respective black and red wires on the connector. The white goes to white, but from that white wire there is what appears to be a 2.2k resistor that jumps across to a blue wire.
There are no LEDs I can find that flash error codes or lights, as some others have suggested, unless I don't know where it is. I have the older thermostat (picture attached) which doesn't have a dial with an LED in the middle.
I've completely removed power from the unit both by the circuit breaker, and by unplugging the connector on the top.
I've tested the voltage in all of the places I could think, and it all looks within the expected norms - ~13v at the mains coming into the terminal strip, tested it along the way past the pop up 20 amp fuse on the terminal strip, at the connector, etc.
I've already sent a note to Sure Marine asking for their opinion and hope to hear from them soon, but looking for other opinions as well.
I'm worried that somehow the ECU or other circuitry inside the heater somehow got damaged. It is not going to be easy to remove it if it has to be repaired, and given the pains I've had with the ducting and installation quality, I will probably just replace it with another brand (Wallas) that I've used before.
However, that is an expensive solution, when what I was trying to do was get a better temperature situation by replacing the thermostat!
I decided to replace the existing thermostat as it was mechanical, not digital, and boxed into a nice little teak box, blocking most of the air going to it. As a result, we would have 15-20 degree swings between heat cycles - not ideal.
Sure Marine sold me a SC1600B digital thermostat which I installed yesterday, and the heater no longer works. All that happens now is when I power things up, and then turn the thermostat to heat, the LED briefly flashes and goes out. Nothing else happens, no fans, no pump noises, etc.
Putting the old thermostat back results in the same problem, the heater no longer turns on, but the light flashes briefly when told to heat.
There are three wires going to the thermostat - red, black and white. The red and black are 12V +/- respectively, and the white is the thermostat "on" wire. They go back through the wall to a big connector that looks like it was meant to plug into the big digital thermostat with timer that was available for this model when it was new.
The black and red wires go to respective black and red wires on the connector. The white goes to white, but from that white wire there is what appears to be a 2.2k resistor that jumps across to a blue wire.
There are no LEDs I can find that flash error codes or lights, as some others have suggested, unless I don't know where it is. I have the older thermostat (picture attached) which doesn't have a dial with an LED in the middle.
I've completely removed power from the unit both by the circuit breaker, and by unplugging the connector on the top.
I've tested the voltage in all of the places I could think, and it all looks within the expected norms - ~13v at the mains coming into the terminal strip, tested it along the way past the pop up 20 amp fuse on the terminal strip, at the connector, etc.
I've already sent a note to Sure Marine asking for their opinion and hope to hear from them soon, but looking for other opinions as well.
I'm worried that somehow the ECU or other circuitry inside the heater somehow got damaged. It is not going to be easy to remove it if it has to be repaired, and given the pains I've had with the ducting and installation quality, I will probably just replace it with another brand (Wallas) that I've used before.
However, that is an expensive solution, when what I was trying to do was get a better temperature situation by replacing the thermostat!