Delia Rosa
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We've done a search on TF for help with designing and building a table for our salon and haven't seen anything that answers some of the questions we have. *We know that there are many excellent carpenters on Trawler Forum and wonder if any of you can help.
We have a traditional U-shaped settee in our salon with a *formica? table top on two metal posts. * The two posts can be lowered to create an extra berth. We find that the table is too small and pretty ugly ( it is only 20" by 52"). *There is also*a long settee on the opposite side of the salon but it is too far away for additional seeting at the table.
We would like to replace the table with a larger folding table of solid wood slabs. *The*two slabs of wood would be 1" by 28" by 52" that would be hinged to create a table that folds onto itself, and when open would become a table of about 54" x 52" which would now reach the additional *seating available from settee opposite. *
The table when closed would be supported by the existing metal posts. *When open, the hinged side would have an additional movable support similar to a folding tv tray table which could be folded for storage separately. * (We would plan to ditch the idea of dropping the support posts for the extra berth).
We like the idea of using flat grain wood (teak is expensive, cherry I'm told can be matched pretty closely to the colour of teak).
We had originally asked for quotes for 1" laminated stock.... with one supplier quoting a price of $490 for two pieces in cherry 1" thick , $470 in African mahogany 1" thick, and $790 for teak 13/16" thick or $1600 for teak 1 1/2" thick. (1" teak was not available for some reason). *This supplier would only supply the sanded pieces, we would have to finish the wood and add the hinge.
The other supplier said that 1" flat grain stock would not be stable enough and would warp. *They quoted flat grain Burmese teak 1 *1\2" at $4490 and flat grain cherry 1 1/2" at $3155. *Their price also included the installation of a piano hinge plus staining and a permanent finish.
Quite a difference in the two prices, but the bigger question is what thickness is really necessary for the table.
We are a little concerned about the extra height and weight that we would end up with using the 1 1/2" material... there isn't a lot of room between the top of the seat bench and the bottom of the table.
We also wanted to increase the functionality of the table and thought about using a piece of Starboard on top of the two metal posts to increase the support for the table top, but mainly to create a surface on which the table top could slide over to the long side of the u-shapedsettee. *We would cut slots into the Starboard and add small bolts to the underside of the wood table top so that it could slide several inches over along the slots. We would use wing nuts on the bolts to lock the top in place. *This would give us more room in the 'aisle' between the table and the opposite settee and easier access to the engine room hatch.*
So what do any of you think about the feasibility of this project and the questions raised re materials and actual design. * We're looking for any and all suggestions.
-- Edited by Delia Rosa on Tuesday 24th of January 2012 03:02:19 PM
We have a traditional U-shaped settee in our salon with a *formica? table top on two metal posts. * The two posts can be lowered to create an extra berth. We find that the table is too small and pretty ugly ( it is only 20" by 52"). *There is also*a long settee on the opposite side of the salon but it is too far away for additional seeting at the table.
We would like to replace the table with a larger folding table of solid wood slabs. *The*two slabs of wood would be 1" by 28" by 52" that would be hinged to create a table that folds onto itself, and when open would become a table of about 54" x 52" which would now reach the additional *seating available from settee opposite. *
The table when closed would be supported by the existing metal posts. *When open, the hinged side would have an additional movable support similar to a folding tv tray table which could be folded for storage separately. * (We would plan to ditch the idea of dropping the support posts for the extra berth).
We like the idea of using flat grain wood (teak is expensive, cherry I'm told can be matched pretty closely to the colour of teak).
We had originally asked for quotes for 1" laminated stock.... with one supplier quoting a price of $490 for two pieces in cherry 1" thick , $470 in African mahogany 1" thick, and $790 for teak 13/16" thick or $1600 for teak 1 1/2" thick. (1" teak was not available for some reason). *This supplier would only supply the sanded pieces, we would have to finish the wood and add the hinge.
The other supplier said that 1" flat grain stock would not be stable enough and would warp. *They quoted flat grain Burmese teak 1 *1\2" at $4490 and flat grain cherry 1 1/2" at $3155. *Their price also included the installation of a piano hinge plus staining and a permanent finish.
Quite a difference in the two prices, but the bigger question is what thickness is really necessary for the table.
We are a little concerned about the extra height and weight that we would end up with using the 1 1/2" material... there isn't a lot of room between the top of the seat bench and the bottom of the table.
We also wanted to increase the functionality of the table and thought about using a piece of Starboard on top of the two metal posts to increase the support for the table top, but mainly to create a surface on which the table top could slide over to the long side of the u-shapedsettee. *We would cut slots into the Starboard and add small bolts to the underside of the wood table top so that it could slide several inches over along the slots. We would use wing nuts on the bolts to lock the top in place. *This would give us more room in the 'aisle' between the table and the opposite settee and easier access to the engine room hatch.*
So what do any of you think about the feasibility of this project and the questions raised re materials and actual design. * We're looking for any and all suggestions.
-- Edited by Delia Rosa on Tuesday 24th of January 2012 03:02:19 PM