2 Boat Ownership

I pushed the pause button on my purchase plans about a month ago to gather my thoughts. Marin has stated in a thread somewhere that he owns and uses 2 boats. Grand Banks and an Arima. Admiral and I are thinking that the idea of 2 boats may solve our problem, the desire for a boat for fishing and something to cruise.

How many forum members have boats for different purposes?

We have come to understand the compromises and trade offs of each boat. We have a couple of ideas along these lines but wished to poll the forum and see if there are many that go this route.

(Hope this doesn't start another single versus twin debate )

2 boats? think BIG!

Our fleet ,

50 ft Navy Utility "lobster boat" for shallow FL waters and the LOOP.

33 ft 90/90 offshore build as crunch boat should departing the USA seem prudent.

23 ft Regal IO on a trailer for motor home adventures and as boat during summer.

33ft Beneteau cruiser racer for sailing fun (too deep for Fl , so for sale)

14 ft day sailing boat for summer

3 Grumman aluminum dinks (2 that sail) as tenders for the fleet.

I've got the lugger 65' under progress and our everyday fishing and island boat 28' hydrasport. Wife would kill me if I sold the small boat.

IG32 for cruising/summer cabin.

Ensign 22 1/2' daysailer for when we get ragbagitis.

11 RIB as a tender and fast inlet/harbor explorer/tender.

26' single scull for exercise (although its been hanging in the barn rafters for the last 20 yrs).

2 kayaks.


-- Edited by dwhatty on Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 08:41:23 AM

50' Defever LRC trawler for cruising (share ownership with a friend)
40' Converted salmon trawler for living on
22' Pocket rocket for sailing
13' Whaler
13' Inflatable
13' Sailing dinghy
a gaggle of kayaks for guests

all adds up to a lot of work

The Monk 36 and a Boston Whaler Montauk, bought new in 1981, for fishing Redfish and Speckled Trout in the marshes and bays around my fishing camp.
Steve W

Killick wrote:all adds up to a lot of work

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*Man, you got that right!

We have a Larson 226lxi runabout that we trailer to various locations. Nice to feel the wind on my bald head at 60mph. Don't get that on the GB...

!. 30' Willard Nomad

2. 19' Winner FG Runabout w 60 Suzuki

3. 16' Crestliner aluminum skiff w 40 Evinrude

4. 18' Clipper Freight Canoe w sq stern

5. 16' Wenonah Canoe

6. 18' Necky Pinta Kayak

7. 15' Necky Kyook Kayak

8. 10' FG Skiff

9. 10' FG Rowing Boat

10. 8' Rubber Duckie

11. 7' Sportyak

On one of my other forums I'm known as "Many Boats" and my friends are constantly asking me how many boats I have. Good thing I don't have any more money. And I'm sure that has something to do w the fact that I do'nt.

The boat in the avatar plus a restored '78 Blackfin cuddy cabin center console for fishing and running around.* It is powered with a Caterpillar 3208T.

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lol this is too funny..

38' California : for cruising and large party fishing
11' Nouverania RIB w 40hp suzuki: runabout and fishing ( max two people fishing)
8' achilles w 3hp evinrude: shore tender/ beach landing.

have a feeling the list will grow next season as we want to do more kayaking (ok mostly the admiral).

Moonstruck wrote:
The boat in the avatar plus a restored '78 Blackfin cuddy cabin center console for fishing and running around.* It is powered with a Caterpillar 3208T.

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*Don, that is one pretty boat that Blackfin.. and with a 3208T wow, thats interesting. How does she handle? Speed?

I may be the only one listing a dedicated tournament Ski Nautique. I've been skiing since age 7 and still go every morning as shown here with my daughter.

Also a 16ft canoe, 14 ft flat deck kayak,*the Livingston dink, and numerous children's*inflatables in various states of leaking.*

Per wrote:Moonstruck wrote:
The boat in the avatar plus a restored '78 Blackfin cuddy cabin center console for fishing and running around.* It is powered with a Caterpillar 3208T.

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*Don, that is one pretty boat that Blackfin.. and with a 3208T wow, thats interesting. How does she handle? Speed?

*Thanks, Per.* She is a sweet handling craft.* The big Cat gives a lot of torque steer in reverse.* She had hydraulic steering, so not much torque steer forward.* With the weight and 26 degree deep V, she rides like she in on shock absorbers.* She loves a following sea.* The cruise is about 24 knots over the ground in shore and 22 knots OTG offshore.* She is just a sweetie.* With the low center of gravity, she is quite stable.

1. 2002' 46' Catamaran Cruiser houseboat for playing around the lake at home.

2. 1973 32' Grand Banks trawler for cruising around the gulf.

3. 1979 22' Buckaneer sailboat for playing in the lake.

4. 2010 20' Xpress Jon boat for fishing and going to the camp.

5. 15' jon boat with godevil for hunting

hogrider46 wrote:
1. 2002' 46' Catamaran Cruiser houseboat for playing around the lake at home.

2. 1973 32' Grand Banks trawler for cruising around the gulf.

3. 1979 22' Buckaneer sailboat for playing in the lake.

4. 2010 20' Xpress Jon boat for fishing and going to the camp.

5. 15' jon boat with godevil for hunting

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*Did you ever consider a 12 step program?

Thank you so much for the input. We will stop looking for the best compromise, and start looking for the best deal on the various designs that appeal to us.

We purchased the dink already, found a smoking deal on an older Livingston that looked unused and 4.5 Evinrude the mechanic told us was in perfect condition. Starts first pull.

Don, I second the compliment on the Blackfin, beautiful boat!

The hunt continues...

36 Monk
10' RIB
12' little day sailer
10' kayak.

I am embarrassed by my minimal fleet! We are attempting to remedy that by hunting around for a bowrider or CC for playing around with the kids on the water. We are still hunting for the larger pilothouse or trawler but I have all but am in no rush at all.

As you mentioned in your initial post, we indeed have two boats.* Four if you count the Livingston and Montgomery sailing dinghy on the GB but I don't count them--- they are part of the GB.

We came very close to selling the Arima a number of years ago as we weren't using it at all--- it sat for seven years without being run once.* Fortunately it was under cover and had a heater-dehumidifier running all that time in the cabin so the boat didn't suffer from any deterioration.

But we are glad the proposed sale fell through, as the Arima has enjoyed a re-discovery of sorts over the past several years.* The boat and trailer cost about $15,000 new in 1987.* Replacing it with exactly the same make and*model today would cost close to $30,000 new*and probably more if one counts all the fishing gear, electronics, etc.*on the one we have.

It's a wonderful boat for fishing, particularly in the sometimes-choppy waters of Puget Sound, for which it was designed by Mr. Arima.* The only thing we would change is the size.* At the time Arima made only two sizes, the 15' and 17.'* Each size was available in three different configurations.* A few years after we bought ours they came out with a 19' model, which is exactly the same as our 17-footer but with two extra feet in the cockpit.* Had they had that at the time, we would have gotten that model, and anyone contemplating the purchase of an 17' Arima would do well to take a look at the 19' boat (they also make a couple of larger sizes now, too).

The GB is worthless as a fishing platform for the kind of fishing we do.* So it's really nice to have a purpose-built boat that is fast (30mph), wide, stable, set up perfectly for fishing,*and handles rougher water well.* Plus we can get to our halibut fishing area up the north end of Vancouver Island in one day regardless of the weather vs three or four days (plus potential weather delays) in the GB.

We have contemplated towing the Arima with the GB on specific trips but so far have not attempted it as it would present some challenges we'd have to figure out how to overcome first.


-- Edited by Marin on Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 06:15:54 PM

1. Pilgrim 40 that is taking up all of our time trying to make it "perfect" for our retirement home starting in late 2014. The Pilgrim carries a Bauer 10 sailboat on the boat deck that is trapped in our garage because somebody hasn't finished work on the boat deck to get the davit remounted.

2. J22 sailboat that we only raced four evenings last year. Since we don't get paid to race so we only go out if a) it's not raining, b) it is not blowing over 15, c) there is at least 3 knots of breeze, d) it is not too hot. That kind of limits things; we would rather stay aboard the trawler and have a nice dinner and some wine if one of the prior four conditions are in place.

3). A couple of 14' kayaks that don't get much use because we are spending too much time working on the Pilgrim.

4). Two iceboats that hopefully will stay in storage.

5). A windsurfer that was given to me. I always wanted to see if I could sail one with out embarrassing myself. It is still hanging in the garage. The guy that gave it to me also gave me a land trainer, a quick lesson and a how-to dvd. Maybe next year....

In reality, you can never have too many boats, even if all of them don't get used.

1 - 44' trawler, "Retreat"
2 - tender, 12' Caribe inflatable, 40 Honda
3&4 - pair of kayaks on deck
5 - 17' double kayak, for Saltspring Is.
6 - laser sailboat, at Saltspring
7 - 16' canoe, at Saltspring
8 - 9' rowboat, for crabbing at Saltspring

For 4 or 5 yrs, I kept a 19' Fibreform, 180 I/O at Saltspring. That was one boat too many, as all I ever got to do with it was maintenance. The kids would use it till something failed, then complain to me till I fixed it. Things have been better since I got rid of it.

Tried talking First Mate into a Carribbean Sailboat for the winters. Failed.

Admiral and I keep returning to the blow boat option as we have several sailing schools available in our region. Safety is the number one goal as we enter the boating community. After proper instruction and certification classes we will most likely get our feet wet with a daysail style boat.(pun intended)

We are convinced that multiple boats are required to satisfy our families varied interests. The order of aquisitition is the only variable to consider now, storage and maintenance costs are of little concern to us. We have researched the number projections to death now and feel we have a good idea what we are getting into.

We have tempered our original enthusiasm with the wisdom of the contributors of this forum and thank all of you for your help.*The search feature has saved asking hundreds of questions and served to keep my post count low. When I decide to buy my second anchor I will have plenty of research available

Ponderosa 42 trawler for cruising
J/29 sailboat for racing
17' Boston Whaler Montauk for fishing
10' Rib for tender

no wonder my wife always asks why I'm always on the boat!

All boats in near cherry condition less than 300 hours on any engine, except for one of the four inboards that has a perf condition low end (900 hrs) with new top end (less than 250 hrs)!
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1977 34 foot Tollycraft Tri Cabin twin screw Sweet and comfy Our Favorite... by a long shot! *
1975 14 foot 8 inch Crestliner Stinger*4 seat, full canvas top, 50 hp o/b, tow behind runabout/cruiser Quick and Fun!
1973 31 foot*Uniflite Sedan Sport Fish twin screw (sold that beauty last summer, I became too busy for using the Tolly and Uni both) Speedy and Very Cool for going out the Golden Gate!* Kinda wish I still had her for those few days I could get free.*


-- Edited by Art on Thursday 24th of November 2011 12:54:06 AM

1974 MT 34' Sedan.

1966, or thereabouts, 19' Flying Scott.* In a state of suspended restoration.

The dink.

I had two boats once. I bought the current boat. before selling the first.

Bad decission but the new one came along and I had to have it.

So double the fees.

My*motto. Never buy a boat untill the*one you have* sells.

It's real easy to buy a boat.

Not so to sell one.

SD**


-- Edited by skipperdude on Friday 25th of November 2011 09:46:16 AM

CPseudonym wrote:
I pushed the pause button on my purchase plans about a month ago to gather my thoughts. Marin has stated in a thread somewhere that he owns and uses 2 boats. Grand Banks and an Arima. Admiral and I are thinking that the idea of 2 boats may solve our problem, the desire for a boat for fishing and something to cruise.

How many forum members have boats for different purposes?

We have come to understand the compromises and trade offs of each boat. We have a couple of ideas along these lines but wished to poll the forum and see if there are many that go this route.

(Hope this doesn't start another single versus twin debate

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I have three boats:

1) HIGH COTTON, a Camano trawler

2) low cotton, a 12 foot Porta-Bote

3) Q-Tip, an inflatable dinghy for the trawler

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rwidman wrote:
I have three boats:

1) HIGH COTTON, a Camano trawler

2) low cotton, a 12 foot Porta-Bote

3) Q-Tip, an inflatable dinghy for the trawler

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*Love the names! I've had two boats before...purchased the new one while I still had the old one. A serious pocketbook drain with maintenance, slip rent, insurance, etc. on both.

low cotton was my first boat. I just never sold it. I take it down to the river from time to time just to put around. I thought about using it for a dinghy but I would have to tow it and getting in and out of the marina (and other marinas) would have been a problem).

I had a 24' sport cruiser when I bought HIGH COTTON and it took over a year to sell it. I didn't use it and it was trailered and parked beside the house so the only costs were taxes and insurance (and depreciation).

1-* eagle 32'

2-* rib 11' with a 9.9hp

3-* 29' sunsation speedboat (70 mph)